-=> Rick Christian wrote to Tony Langdon <=-   
      
    RC> Like I said things have been lost in time on exactly why, but a lot of   
    RC> had to do with FD just making sense to me.   
      
   I think in my case, it was a case of Bink being the first one I got going.    
   From memory, it was free (as in beer), wasn't FD shareware?  Secondly, I   
   started playing with Bink and it made sense to me, so I kept using it.  And   
   today, it's all come back to me with binkd. :)   
      
      
    TL>> especially in the earlier days, when I was running 2400 bps.  Was   
    TL>> interesting seeing bot RxD and Txd lights on continuously. :)   
      
    RC> My biggest issue back in the day was HST and HST+ crap. I never had any   
    RC> success   
    RC>  with HST/+ nodes ever negotiating down, and personally I think they   
    RC> were set that way.   
      
   I don't remember that issue.   
      
    RC> I had a V.Evertyhing eventually when I got it cheapo... but I think it   
    RC> got lost   
    RC>  in one of the many moves later after modems were not in need, other   
    RC> than ICLID   
    RC>  or fax.   
      
   When I had the BBS, I only got up to 2400, but when a friend took over hosting   
   it, he did eventually upgrade to Courier V.Everything modems.  Had no issues.     
      
    RC> If I ever get the chance I might dig through the shed and toes.. there   
    RC> should be some Telebits in there too!   
      
    RC> Wasn't there something that allowed for that, like Hydra??? Or   
    RC> something. I remember having some bidirectional protocols available for   
    RC> things, but maybe that was stuff I added to Terminate, Telemat, and   
    RC> ProComm...   
      
   Hydra rins a bell.  In any case, it was a cool feature of Bink, especially at   
   slower modem speeds or for large volumes of mail.   
      
    TL> My transfers were local, but they were fairly large for the day, so   
    TL> the bidirectional protocol was a huge time saver.  I'v be like "Cool,   
    TL> this system runs Bink, or "Damn, it's FD, slower transfers! :D   
      
    RC> My reaction was like that for HST nodes, as per above, I really thing   
    RC> they were   
    RC>  intentionaly misconfigured to block the V.34 etc stuff at the time.   
      
   I'm not sure how much that was an issue over here.   
      
    RC> I used NetMGR too! Had it to do all kinds of things, and one of those   
    RC> was to take the stuff that came in for some things like ML's I was   
    RC> operating that went   
    RC>  in/out via private FTN's. I think I saw a Linux port of this in   
    RC> collecting old   
    RC>  things for Fido for Linux.   
      
   Hmm, a Linux port of NetMgr.  Might have to look for that. :)   
      
    RC> Me either, C just didn't work for me. Considering I started on COBOL,   
    RC> Fortran, and assembler for a PDP8/e and later 6502, 68HC11's, and some   
    RC> other stuff.   
      
   I programmed in BASIC, Pascal (generally Turbo Pascal), and various assembly   
   languages, including 8080, 8086, 6809, and even PIC16F84.   
      
    RC> GIGO really would need to be able to work with a standard UseNet   
    RC> account now to   
    RC>  gate UseNet vesus uucp. There are not too many if any uucp places   
    RC> around. I susppose some the ancicent "freenet" things that are still   
    RC> around might offer it.   
      
   I know it was possible to use an SMTP server under OS/2 (there was one that   
   worked with GIGO), and I even managed to get GIGO to work with an old version   
   of MDaemon under 32 bit Windows (I was running NT 4 at the time).  I can't   
   recall if I was still gating Usenet at the time, or if it was just email   
   (including gated maiing lists).  I know I had to convert from UUCP to SPTP (and   
   NNTP?) when my ISP stopped offering UUCP.   
      
    TL> Sounds like all of my todo lists. :D   
      
    RC> The ones at work shrink, but just keep filling up. The ones for my   
    RC> personal stuff never seem to shrink, but only grow and grow and grow.   
    RC> Hmmmm....   
      
   Know that feeling. ;)   
      
      
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