Hello Mike,   
      
   On Sat Dec 02 2017 00:52:26, Mike Miller wrote to Nicholas Boel:   
      
    MM>  I'm running into one of those stupid emerge issues right now on my   
    MM> devbox. too many things unmasked and it doesn't want to update   
    MM> properly.  Meanwhile I can just "yum -y update" on my BBS machine   
    MM> without worrying that it's going to break.   
      
   Yeah, those were a pain tracking down the problem too! I honestly can't say   
   that I miss it one bit, really. While the idea is nice, I'd now rather wait   
   for the time to try an LFS build if I'm going to go back to compiling   
   everything.   
      
    MM>  "You built a new computer, throw Gentoo on the old one" I said. "It's   
    MM> got a fast CPU, Gentoo will work great!" I insisted. "You'll keep it   
    MM> up to date, just emerge once every few days or so!" I thought.   
      
    MM> Yeah...   
      
   HAHA. But sometimes that "once every few days" overlap each other when you   
   have to compile for 8 hours (so you walk away), come back 12 hours later and   
   the compile broke somewhere, so you have to track it down and recompile   
   everything that didn't compile all over again. Yikes, as I said I don't miss   
   it. lol   
      
    NB>> Now I run the BBS on Arch and update whenever I feel like it.   
    NB>> Takes no time at all and everything has been surprisingly stable   
    NB>> for a few years now.   
      
    MM> I tried to toss Arch on my laptop at one point, and I just couldn't   
    MM> get it to run right. It booted, but X wouldn't come up, and I didn't   
    MM> want to do Gentoo-levels of tinkering with it to make it work, so I   
    MM> gave up.  I think I'm too old to learn a new distro...   
      
   So you tried installing X after you rebooted into it the first time? Arch   
   doesn't come with X preinstalled. The best instructions are on the wiki. I   
   think it's as simple as:   
      
   pacman -S xorg    
      
   Then if you want to use 'startx' you'd have to install xorg-xinit as it   
   doesn't come with the base xorg packages. Same goes for something like xdg,   
   gdm, kdm, etc if you want a graphical login.   
      
   That aside, if you're looking for an Arch-based distro that comes with all the   
   extras, you could try Manjaro or Antergos. I gave Manjaro a looksee in a VM   
   and it was great. Definitely a nice usable desktop OS. I just have no need for   
   X so I stick with Arch itself these days. My main desktop is Windows 10,   
   mainly because of gaming. I just use Putty or VMWare's detachable console   
   program to access my Linux servers.   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
   ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."   
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