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From: clay
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:26:21 GMT
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Mike Easter wrote:
> 1100000 wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>
>>>>> One of the reasons some of us who grew up with GUI for the past 20+
>>>>> years absolutely hate commandlines.
>
>>> The GUI user
>>> would just click navigate to the file.
>>
>> It's easy in the terminal... If you know the general location of the
>> file:
>>
>> $ cd /boot/grub/
>>
>> Then:
>>
>> $ ls | grep 'menu'
>>
>> And then when you find the file name:
>>
>> $ vim menu.lst
>>
>> or if you have no idea where it might be, type:
>>
>> $ locate menu.lst
>>
>> or
>>
>> $ locate menu > menu_locater.txt
>>
>> and then browse through the menu_locater.txt file to find the file
>> you are looking for.
>
> That above is an excellent strategy to teach the gui user how to
> navigate around using commands, because there is a 'gap' between the
> orientation of those who are very accustomed to commands and those who
> are not. I think the gap needs some stepping stones for the gui/ers,
> because the commandline is far and away the most efficient or necessary
> way to get some things done.
>
> One problem for the gui/er [or anyone else] is, the command has to be
> 'perfect' -- in the examples we are talking about in this thread, there
> was one imperfection and then another, first the lack of the leading
> slash and then the .lst typo.
>
> Commandliners are accustomed to this perfection requirement and handle
> it well, whereas gui/ers are not; they are accustomed to pointing and
> clicking on things, or cutting and pasting them. They solve
> imperfections of spelling or path in human-like trial-and-error based on
> what they do and what they see giving the correct result or not. The
> commandline is more 'machine-like'.
>
> When I watch the interactions of problem solving in the ubuntu forum, I
> see the gui/ers asking questions, being given commands to use, and then
> the gui/er copies and pastes the commands seen in their browser in the
> webforum into their terminal which is running in a separate window/task
> in their graphical ubuntu.
>
I'm not a proficient (read: lazy) typer but this doesn't present a huge
problem using the cli.
locate, Ctrl+Shift+c, Ctrl+Shift+v, vi, and Tab gets me around quite
nicely...
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