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   Subject: Re: Editing menu.lst   
   Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:13:30 -0800   
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   1100000 wrote:   
   > Mike Easter wrote:   
      
   >>>> One of the reasons some of us who grew up with GUI for the past 20+   
   >>>> years absolutely hate commandlines.   
      
   >> The GUI user   
   >> would just click navigate to the file.   
   >   
   > It's easy in the terminal... If you know the general location of the   
   > file:   
   >   
   > $ cd /boot/grub/   
   >   
   > Then:   
   >   
   > $ ls | grep 'menu'   
   >   
   > And then when you find the file name:   
   >   
   > $ vim menu.lst   
   >   
   > or if you have no idea where it might be, type:   
   >   
   > $ locate menu.lst   
   >   
   > or   
   >   
   > $ locate menu > menu_locater.txt   
   >   
   > and then browse through the menu_locater.txt file to find the file   
   > you are looking for.   
      
   That above is an excellent strategy to teach the gui user how to   
   navigate around using commands, because there is a 'gap' between the   
   orientation of those who are very accustomed to commands and those who   
   are not.  I think the gap needs some stepping stones for the gui/ers,   
   because the commandline is far and away the most efficient or necessary   
   way to get some things done.   
      
   One problem for the gui/er [or anyone else] is, the command has to be   
   'perfect' -- in the examples we are talking about in this thread, there   
   was one imperfection and then another, first the lack of the leading   
   slash and then the .lst typo.   
      
   Commandliners are accustomed to this perfection requirement and handle   
   it well, whereas gui/ers are not;  they are accustomed to pointing and   
   clicking on things, or cutting and pasting them.  They solve   
   imperfections of spelling or path in human-like trial-and-error based on   
   what they do and what they see giving the correct result or not.  The   
   commandline is more 'machine-like'.   
      
   When I watch the interactions of problem solving in the ubuntu forum, I   
   see the gui/ers asking questions, being given commands to use, and then   
   the gui/er copies and pastes the commands seen in their browser in the   
   webforum into their terminal which is running in a separate window/task   
   in their graphical ubuntu.   
      
   --    
   Mike Easter   
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