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   From: SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.invalid>   
   Subject: Re: Serious hardware problems   
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   Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:09:46 GMT   
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   * Hadron wrote in alt.os.linux.ubuntu:   
   > SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.invalid> writes:   
      
   >> * Xunil Resu wrote in alt.os.linux.ubuntu:   
   >>> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:50:23 -0600, noalternative wrote:   
      
   [...]   
      
   >> That is an outright lie. You had to provide driver disks for MUCH of the   
   >> hardware, without it, youd be in the same boat.   
      
   > This has not been my findings.    
      
   That's nice.   
      
      
   > The peripheral disks are only ever needed   
   > for special accompaniement SW - most of which is not needed. At least   
   > for getting the OS up and running. Of course most new machines come   
   > preinstalled.   
      
   USB printers, Video cards and NIC cards all need drivers. The generic   
   drivers provided by windows, IF there are any, lack many features that   
   the hardware is capable of.   
      
   > You seem very keen to throw accusations around these days. Maybe you   
   > need a break?   
      
   I am not accusing anyone of anything that isn't well known. Windows   
   peripherals require driver disks to function as they were manufactured.   
      
   >> If you spent any time at all searching the web you'd see that HP   
   >> printers are by far the most linux compatible from the MS world. I   
   >> have   
      
   > From MS World?   
      
   Yes, did I stutter? Its a device that requires drivers and the ones   
   provided in the package are MS only.   
      
   > I have an HP and it took ages to set up in Linux because of CUPS issues   
   > in Ubuntu. In Windows it just worked. Configuring printers in Linux is   
   > not trivial a lot of the time.   
      
   As I said, I have an HP and have used no less than 3 different distros   
   of varying versions and have never had an issue getting it running   
   within minutes of getting the OS installed, all without swapping a disk   
   or rebooting.   
      
   >> an all in one officejet with a scanner and fax and can access all   
   >> features under Linux. Id guess your resolution issue is actually your   
   >> video card not your monitor that is at issue.   
      
   > Could also be bad numbers in xorg.conf *FAR* too much is possible in   
   > the xorg.conf for the nOOB. Bad numbers can even result in dead HW.   
      
   Who the hell opens the file to touch the damn numbers unless they need   
   to tweak. Between Slack, Mandr* and Ubuntu on 4 different boxes I have   
   never had to do more than change nv to nvidia.   
      
   >> But you are right, based on your recent posts, it seems you are not   
   >> ready for linux.   
      
   > You & BlackTopBum have become increasingly rude & obnoxious for some   
   > reason.   
      
   Its the company we keep, this group is full of trolls that think Linux   
   should be just like Windows, its the only Linux group that I read that   
   eminates this much FUD and considering the number of posts in this   
   group, that's a bad thing.   
      
      
   > You wield your knowledge & killfiles as if it makes you judge &   
   > jury.   
      
   Ridiculous. This is Usenet what goes on in my killfile has no affect on   
   anyone but me. As for my knowledge, I'd gladly put my Usenet posting   
   history against yours any day.   
      
   > A shame as you were a good advocate and helper - when you could   
   > still remember how it was for you during your learning process.   
      
   I still remember, I can also smell BS a mile away.   
      
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