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   From: Moog    
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   Subject: Re: Lite versions of Linyx question   
   Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:18:46 +0000 (UTC)   
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   SINNER illuminated the devils arse on Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:42:39 +0000, by   
   typing:   
      
   >> Again, I would disagree with that. If the cursor is positioned at the   
   >> bottom it at least forces the poster to have a rethink and perhaps   
   >> read the whole post in context.   
   >    
   > Argueably you could say that putting the cursor at the bottom doesnt    
   > force the poster to do anything but place his 2 word comment and not snip    
   > the ~100 previous lines. Most bottom posters, even ones that know better,    
   > leave extraneous text in the reply and this is triggered by a reader that    
   > places the cursor at the bottom.   
      
   And the difference between a lazy poster with the cursor at the top and   
   one at the bottom is very little. I'd still argue that cursor at the   
   bottom (unless your are experienced) is the best way. It indicates that   
   you should be posting after the quoted text. Snipping and discussion in   
   context are simply things that have to be learned - just like we have done   
   over the years.   
      
   >> I would certainly agree that once you   
   >> have mastered usenet, an option to place the cursor at the top could   
   >> come in handy. Personally, that is not my bag at all.    
   >    
   > I would have it no other way and most of the better readers do postition    
   > the cursor at the top just under the attribtution.   
      
   Different strokes for different folks?   
      
   >>> I believe that positioning the cursor at the bottom tends to lead   
   >>> some posters to untrimmed bottom posting, which is also very bad.   
   >>    
   >> Nope. Sorry. I disagree again. That's just pure laziness.   
   >    
   > Regardless, its true.   
      
   Laziness? How would you know that the position of the cursor is   
   responsible for the amount of trimming employed? I still suggest that this   
   is something that is to be learned.   
      
   >> A trait that   
   >> is more and more common in society. Still, I must say, I prefer that   
   >> to top posting. The "limited bandwidth" days have gone...at least for   
   >> me.    
   >    
   > Thats just it, it isnt about YOU,    
      
   I didn't say it was. The word "prefer" and the "at least for me" quotes   
   are a huge clue.   
      
   > this is a community. You arent doing    
   > whats best for you, you should be doing what suits the community and    
   > since the majority of the world is NOT on broadband its discourteous to    
   > not snip.   
      
   I am on Broadband. I snip. I've learned how to post as correctly as   
   possible. I still argue that, for new posters, a cursor placed at the top   
   is more likely to enforce poor posting than one at the bottom.    
       
      
      
   > But it isnt. Come on over to a group that discusses news readers full   
   > time and youll see what the preferred method is. CLUE: Yours isnt it.   
   >    
   > news.software.readers when you are ready ;)   
      
   I've been in there. It seems to be constant discussions about Xnews   
   problems. I'd rather stay in here and find out about Ubuntu for now.   
      
   I will be trying slrn when I have some time. I *will* be pestering you   
   for advice when I do.   
       
      
   >> And it should not be used for usenet in it's standard form.   
   >    
   > People shouldnt drink and drive either...   
      
   Heh. True.   
      
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