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   From: "Mike Easter"    
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   Subject: Re: Lite versions of Linyx question   
   Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 09:10:30 -0800   
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   Moog wrote:   
   > Mike Easter   
      
   >> Badly structured news posts are caused more by the poster's   
   >> motivation or lack thereof than where the cursor defaults.   
   >   
   > That's exactly it. Should Outlook Express (or the GG editor) simply   
   > position it's cursor in the right position from the off, then top   
   > posting would be left to the fuckwits.   
      
   Personally, for my tastes, I believe the cursor should be positioned at   
   the top, because that is very close to where the trimming should begin.   
   I believe that positioning the cursor at the bottom tends to lead some   
   posters to untrimmed bottom posting, which is also very bad.   
      
   My newsreader provides me with the option to position the cursor at the   
   top or the bottom and I choose to position it at the top where I start   
   trimming.  Other newsreaders facilitate highlighting for the   
   citation/quote.   
      
   > Most new usenet users, even the intelligent ones, simply accept the   
   > defaults.   
      
   I'm still arguing that the cursor position isn't the problem.   
      
   > So the fault lies with? Poorly written software? Could it be?   
      
   I have used googlegroups and posted a properly attributed and trimmed   
   and contextualized message just fine.  The problem lies with the   
   behavior of the poster.   
      
   In the case of native OE, it has historically been configured/designed   
   to favor corporate type email replies with textover fullquote under.  If   
   the poster uses the autosig, then not only is the cursor at the top, but   
   there is a sig right under it, 'forcing' the autosigged poster to type   
   in between creating a top post.  That is all about corporate TOFU.   
      
   That whole business is a set of reasons why the OE user would be better   
   off with OE QuoteFix, and also why the GGer should read the helpfile to   
   understand how to use GG to cite and trim.   
      
      
   --    
   Mike Easter   
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