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From: MCR
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Subject: Re: Canonical and Linspire Announce Technology Partnership
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Mike Easter wrote:
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> The Ub developers would like to see an Ub sanctioned way to achieve
> Automatix or EasyUb rather than 3rd party routes.
And so would I to be honest. This is why I think the Linspire deal is a
good idea. There is a lot of whining around the Windows community that
Linux has too many distro's, too many choices and is too complicated.
Without getting involved in philosophical discussions about OS vs Closed
source, I think a bit of consolidation and standardization is a good
thing, especially as it benefits the customer.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonCustomizations With the many community
> customization scripts floating around, it is relevant to provide
> relevant information about the status of integrating the changes these
> scripts provide in Ubuntu. -- Why scripts are problematic - Contributed
> scripts like this do not provide the best user experience possible.
Thanks for the heads up on this. read the Wiki and immediately removed
automatix. Its a shame, but as I know there is going to be an official
solution in the next release, I can wait.
>> The question is,.. do users recommend Ubuntu or Linspire for noobs?
>
> Most new users are going to want/need access to the codecs and
> repositories and applications which are not consistent with Ub's
> philosophy at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy
>
> Much to the contrary, Linspire is 'full of' those applications and
> codecs, and so are some Ub derived distros, such as Mint Linux.
While I agree with the philosophy, the harsh reality is that people (and
I include myself in this group) need these files to make the system
work the way I want it to. I think it was in Mark Shuttleworth's blog
where he said hard choices and compromises are going to have to be made,
and he is right. I can see in the very near future people saying to
noobs "if you want that functionality, go to Linspire",and that would be
a shame, and it would be detrimental to the hard work that Ubuntu have
strived in making the OS noob friendly, even to the point of scaring off
advanced users ;)
> Ub community support is vastly superior to Linspire's.
Agreed
> Ub wants to be more friendly to access to the absent codecs and apps,
> and Linspire wants the advantages of being Ub-ish.
>
A win-win scenario. Good news indeed!
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