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   From: SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.invalid>   
   Subject: Re: 6.10 DT: How to exit Gnome and change to console mode?   
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   Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:29:42 GMT   
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   * MCR wrote in alt.os.linux.ubuntu:   
   > SINNER wrote:   
      
   [...]   
      
   >>> Thanks!  You know these little nuggets of knowledge are invaluable,    
   >>> If I had known how to do it I would not have sodded around with   
   >>> Automatix2.    
   >>>   I am surprised that 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' wasn't mentioned in    
   >>> the Ubuntu docs.  It is after all Ubuntu's reputation to be easy to   
   >>> use and by default all Ubuntu flavours, so this minor yet important   
   >>> omission is surprising!   
      
   >> Not sure I agree. As you can see Ubuntu (based on many peoples thoughts    
   >> in here) wants to hide the command line from noobs. I still cant get to    
   >> other pure consoles by using CTL + ALT + F1 - F6 I get a blank screen.   
      
   >> No Console for you! Next!   
      
   >> That said, stopping GDM and installing the nvidia drivers without using    
   >> apt or automatix (which worked flawlessly for me) would require compiling    
   >> and Ubuntu does not load the build-essential package by default. You    
   >> think the newbs are screaming now!    
      
   >> Load an OS and give them   
      
   >> login:   
      
   >> to stare at.   
      
      
   > While I agree with the sentiments you lay down here.  I am referring to    
   > the official how-to on installing the restricted packages.    
      
   Ahh, I have not used them, hadn't the need yet.   
      
   > Now if we    
   > are talking newbie friendly, they should either mention the Automatix    
   > method   
      
   I agree.   
      
   > or at least tell people how to stop GDM.   
      
   You lose me here, possibly because I haven't read the ref'd howto's but I   
   don't see stopping GDM as being something you would want to leave a newb   
   with.   
      
   >  If you followed the    
   > howto as a noob, you will see at some point you would become unstuck as    
   > there are gaps in the howto.   
      
   File a bug report ;)   
      
   > As for the Nvidia drivers, no compiling is    
   > needed.   
      
   So you just grabbed the precompiled binary and did not need to install   
   kernel modules?   
      
   > Pressing CTRL+ALT and F would not work as X hasn't    
   > actually shut down.   
      
   When I used Mandr* X could be up, by default it is on F7, whereas F1   
   displayed stdout from that X session. F2 through F6 were always   
   available and brought up a pure console with a login prompt. Going back   
   to F7 brought the X session back. It was a nice feature and also made it   
   easy to have multiple Xsessions running.    
      
   I have not been able to accomplish this feat although all the config   
   items seem to be in place and the consoles are available:   
      
   [06:17 PM][J:0][sinner@~]$ top | grep getty   
   root      5088  0.0  0.0   1564   492 tty1     Ss+  Feb05   0:00 /sbin/getty   
   38400 tty1   
   root      5089  0.0  0.0   1560   492 tty2     Ss+  Feb05   0:00 /sbin/getty   
   38400 tty2   
   root      5090  0.0  0.0   1564   492 tty3     Ss+  Feb05   0:00 /sbin/getty   
   38400 tty3   
   root      5091  0.0  0.0   1560   492 tty4     Ss+  Feb05   0:00 /sbin/getty   
   38400 tty4   
   root      5092  0.0  0.0   1560   492 tty5     Ss+  Feb05   0:00 /sbin/getty   
   38400 tty5   
   root      5093  0.0  0.0   1560   492 tty6     Ss+  Feb05   0:00 /sbin/getty   
   38400 tty6   
   sinner     507  0.0  0.1   2016   756 pts/1    S+   18:17   0:00      \_grep   
   getty   
      
   I use htop so top is aliased   
      
   [06:17 PM][J:0][sinner@~]$ alias | grep top   
   alias top='ps afuwx'   
      
   > I agree Automatix is the best solution, but be honest, you have to    
   > either know about it or come across it as a solution because it isnt    
   > installed by default.   
      
   True dat.   
      
   > ol' boy ;)   
      
   Hmmm, I'll need to check the archives, but I think you got me by a   
   couple, pop ;)   
      
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