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From: Topaz_Crow
Subject: Re: My ubuntu experience
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:39:09 +0100, Michel Firholz wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:33:31 -0600, Topaz_Crow wrote:
>
>> This is how most users who are afraid or too lazy or just don't know
>> how to type more than two words per minute think. The CLI is no more
>> archaic than clicking on an OK button but it is definitely more
>> powerful.
>>
> Yet. But Ubuntu users can do quite a lot right from the GUI, pretending
> that you *must* learn it from the beginning is archaic, Ubuntu don't
> deserve that.
I agree and I'm not saying that you must learn the CLI. But I am
saying that it is extremely helpful to learn it. That is why people
help out by giving CLI commands.
>
>> It's not about GUI vs. CLI. It's apparent that some people can do
>> without one or the other.
> Full ack.
>
>> If something is easier to do in GUI, then do it that way. If something
>> is easier in CLI, do it that way.
> Full ack too.
>
>> To introduce someone to Linux, is to
>> introduce people to the CLI also.
> Nope.
Why not? You don't have to, but it is a good idea.
>
>> Asking the experts in these groups to
>> not show people their way of doing things is unrealistic.
> Maybe they lack the brain to understand that others may tick differently?
>
>> After all,
>> they are the experts. Now we have newbies telling these experts that
>> they shouldn't be trying to teach CLI stuff for some reason or other.
> Yes exactly. I am a pretty old IT consultant and had in my long IT life
> learned a lot from the newbies. They hat very often shown me the better
> way to deserve not only them but all the users.
To exclude positive aspects of Linux is not a better idea and it will
never be. You can not do everything in a GUI. Maybe everything a
newbie needs, but eventually they will not be newbies. This comes with
learning the system and how it works. Part of this learning is
introduction to the CLI. If they don't learn the CLI then they are not
fully learning Linux. They are learning Gnome or Kde or some such
windows environment.
>
>> Pretty stupid if you ask me. But that's probably why they are here.
> The tread is named "my experience with Ubuntu" would you please mind to
> keep that in mind? My experience in keeping to to everything from the GUI
> is extremely positive in Ubuntu and it is an enrichment.
I agree, but learning how to do more than the GUI is also positive and
enriching.
I was referring to people who complain about being shown the CLI way
to fix problems they are asking for help with.
>
>> asking for help anyway.
> Not in that thread.
>
>
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