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   On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:33:31 -0600, Topaz_Crow wrote:   
      
   > On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:43:08 +1100, John Fitzsimons  wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:11:41 -0600, Topaz_Crow   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:19:59 -0500, Mark Warner  wrote:   
   >>>> Michel Firholz wrote:   
   >>   
   >>< snip >   
   >>   
       
      
   >> Not only is a CLI archaic it is also very very tedious for those of us   
   >> who don't want to have to learn a large number of "commands".    
   >    
   > This is how most users who are afraid or too lazy or just don't know   
   > how to type more than two words per minute think. The CLI is no more   
   > archaic than clicking on an OK button but it is definately more   
   > powerful.   
   >    
   >>   
   >> What Unix users tend to ignore is that to use Unix you need to have    
   >> a very good memory. If you don't remember EXACTLY what the syntax    
   >> for a command is then it doesn't get executed.   
   >>   
   >> With windows going through menus, and clicking, requires little/no   
   >> memory at all.   
   >    
   > Well, if one does not have the memory capacity to remember a few   
   > commands, I guess there is no hope and there will continue to be   
   > people asking for help in these groups. Soon, memory capacity will   
   > degrade to the point that people refuse to learn how to work a mouse.   
      
      
      
   Downplay CLI complexity?? Sorry TC, the numbers do NOT support your   
   case. Truth is, The command line is HUGELY more complex than a GUI.    
      
   Take this crude example:    
      
       1) A certain GUI command requires the choice between two ( 2 ) buttons:   
      
       2) For the typed keyboard version of that same command    
       requiring ---say--- ten ( 10 ) characters, the number of   
        possible typed combinations is ~ 100 ^ 10 .     
      
   Assuming LOG complexity, the usr faces ~ 70x as difficult a task in   
   the CLI as opposed to the GUI. Now, if the CLI is the ONLY way to give   
   that command there is no issue. But, if the GUI version is available then   
   it's affectation to choose otherwise.   
      
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