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   From: bigjon    
   Subject: Re: My ubuntu experience   
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   On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:10:47 -0500, CBFalconer wrote:   
      
   > Topaz_Crow wrote:   
   >>    
   > ... snip ...   
   >>    
   >> You seem to be the one not understanding. Everyone seems to applaud   
   >> the efforts of Ubuntu to make life easy for new users. I know I do.   
   >    
   > Here is another Ubuntu basic problem.  It is highly dependent on   
   > Internet access to revise, install, etc.  Yet it comes without   
   > means of accessing a dial-up line.  One of the first things needed   
   > is a way of finding a driver for whatever modem (if possible).    
   > There is a script extant to check the internal modem type, but it   
   > is not present on the CD.  Once that hurdle is passed (I haven't)   
   > there is the problem of downloading a driver, and no means for   
   > that.  Again, they should all be on the CD.  Alternatively, there   
   > should be an easily available (possibly pay) CD or CDs that include   
   > a complete set of auxiliary components.   
   >    
   > There isn't even a terminal capable of playing with the modem   
   > interface.  If there was I could be attacking via an external   
   > modem.   
   >    
   > These things are all fixable, but haven't been.   
      
   Forgive me, but even though I am a newbie, I do believe that the authors   
   are looking forward, not back. Dial-up is becoming outdated, and broadband   
   support is out of the box...   
   Little point in writing scripts for something that will all but disappear   
   in a year or two?   
   Most internet users want streaming media, music downloads and online   
   content, virtually inaccesable with slower dial-ups?   
      
   just my 2'pennyworth...   
      
   .../ I'll get my hat and coat...   
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