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   From: Goeroeboeroe    
   Subject: Re: My ubuntu experience   
   Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:24:27 +0100   
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   Op Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:06:25 +0000, schreef SINNER:   
      
   > * Goeroeboeroe wrote in alt.os.linux.ubuntu:   
   >    
   > [...]   
   >    
   >> Sorry, but this is really getting ridiculous. As I noted before: there's   
   >> not one new Linux user that's going to install Pine.   
   >    
   > Not sure I can agree. I use slrn regularly. When I first loaded Linux I    
   > moved from pan to slrn within weeks of my first install.   
   >    
   > How would slrn be any different in your above argument? Mutt?   
   >    
   > Are you saying this because it is a CLI based app?   
      
   In that case I can reassure you: slrn is in the Ubuntu's repositories, so   
   it can be installed with about two mouseclicks or typing about five words   
   in the terminal.   
   I've been working with computers for over 20 year, and worked a lot on   
   computers in people's home. The average user is attracted by Windows   
   because they only have to click and don't have to remember anything (they   
   think, so I can make a living by removing spyware, viruses, etc. :o) If an   
   average user switches to Linux, I think at the moment somebody else with   
   some knowledge has to install it for her/him. And that average user is   
   going to use Thunderbird or KMail or another point-and-click-program, not   
   pine or slrn or some other CLI mail-program.   
   But if it's really that   
   important for somebody to use that one special program, that person should   
   choose a Linux-flavor that has that program in the repositories. Or the   
   user should learn to compile etc.   
   But that's exactly the same for every   
   OS. There are some nice programs on Linux, that don't run on Windows. If   
   you want to run them on Windows, you have to start doing complicated   
   things too. But again: the average user doesn't do this things. I don't   
   care if somebody uses Linux or Windows or Mars of Solaris or Jupiter or   
   Kitchensink. But it is not the amount of programs, or the quality, that   
   makes Linux difficult for the average user. That's past. It's installing,   
   things like flash, streaming media, etc. And actually that has less to do   
   with Linux than with patents etc. And I think that problem will be gone in   
   another year or so.   
   By the way: the average user shouldn't install Windows too. If I had   
   gotten one euro for every firewall, antivirus, etc, I've seen that   
   was disabled or wrong installed, I'd be rich by now.   
      
   Peter   
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