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   From: Joe LaVigne    
   Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu   
   Subject: Re: Ubuntu machine on the way Friday   
   Date: 7 Mar 2007 08:48:58 GMT   
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   On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:21:32 +0000, Josiah Jenkins wrote:   
      
   > Whilst perusing Usenet on 6 Mar 2007 23:26:51 GMT, I read these words   
   > from Joe LaVigne :   
   >>On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:08:44 +0000, Josiah Jenkins wrote:   
   >>> Whilst perusing Usenet on Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:28:53 -0800, I read   
   >>> these words from NoStop :   
   >>>>Pete wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >    
   >>>>   
   >>With a deb (or rpm) package, you have no user prompts.   
   >> Everything goes where it is supposed to.   
   >    
   > Is that good or bad ?   
      
   Good. The filesystem has a specific structure, and everything has it's   
   place.   
      
   >>   
   >>You can reset the root password if you wish, but it is not necessary.    
   >>Right click on "Applications", click "Edit Menus", click on   
   >>"System Tools" in the left pane, put a checkmark next to   
   >>"root terminal" in the right, close the window.   
   >    
   > Thanks, hadn't got around to random left-clicks to   
   > see what, if anything, happens.   
   >>>    
   >>> I've been trying to change 'permissions' on an .ogg file.   
   >>> Even as sudo or gksudo and using a tag managing program,   
   >>> I still can't find out how in Ubuntu . . . 'permission refused'.   
   >>> Or you get it changed but it won't save !!!   
   >>   
   >>Copy the file to your hard drive.   
   >>Use sudo chown username to give yourself ownership of the   
   >>file, then you should be able to do anything you want.   
   >>You cannot change permissions or ownership on a CD.   
   >    
   > I hadthem on the HD, I copied about 15 ogg files into a   
   > directory in /home to mess around with.   
      
   But did you change the ownership after you copied them? When you copy a   
   file, it copies the attributes as well. Do a ls -al and paste the info   
   here...   
      
   >    
   > All my music files (just over 7,000) are in mp3 format   
   > on an external hard drive.   
   >>>    
   >>ogg is not a filesystem. It is a music file type, similar to MP3,   
   >    
   > You're correct, it's a file type.   
   > As mp3 is a type within the mpeg 'family' of files.   
   > (Moving Picture Experts Group Audio Layer 3)   
   >    
   > I knew of the ogg format but in fifteen years have never   
   > seen an ogg file used on a Windows system.    
      
   I have. They are less common, though. They seem to have come into   
   existence mostly because MP3's were not easily supported in older Linux   
   systems, due to the closed source and copyright.   
      
   >>>    
   >>> (I've even managed to get a 'chocolate screen of death'   
   >>   
   >>In many years using Linux in one form or another, I have   
   >>had a few lockups (almost always hardware related),   
   >>but never seen such a screen.   
   >    
   > It was after changing a file following 'advice' I was given.   
   > (not here, I hasten to add)   
   > I got a totally blank desktop (no icons or toolbar)   
   > and had to re-install to get it back to normal.    
      
   I'll bet that with a little digging, you could have fixed it without a   
   rebuild...   
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