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   From: Josiah Jenkins    
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   Subject: Re: Problems after installing Ubuntu (fairly long)   
   Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:09:54 +0000   
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   Whilst perusing Usenet on Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:53:58 +0000, I read   
   these words from Cushie  :   
      
   Another (Linux) newbie's experiences.   
   >   
   >elaich I've got to sympathise with you! I've been trying various    
   >combinations to get Ubuntu Install past the formating stage.  I did not    
   >trust the sparse/lack of info on installing a new partition in the spare    
   >space so I opted for Partition Magic outside of Linux.   
      
   I had partitioned my drive previously using PQ Magic (back when   
   I was running W2K). I now have XP Pro on the drive and the   
   version of PQM I have doesn't support the later M$ OS.   
      
   So, basically you're starting from the same position I did   
   (except I had Mandrake on there and I wanted rid of it   
   because I had never managed to get it to work for me.)   
   >   
   >Ubuntu installation (GpartEd) kept telling me I needed a root partition    
   >and could not see there was one there, and would not make one for me.   
      
   AFAIR. Choosing the 'manual' partition option takes you to the   
   next screen which shows your current drive partitions.   
   (including the Windows one).   
   Set one as 'swap', the other as '/', tick the re-format box   
   for both the Linux partitions and that was it.    
      
   Several days later, before getting too heavily involved,   
   I decided to shrink my Win partition somewhat and set up   
   two Linux root partitions (Ubuntu and probably Debian at   
   a future date) and a seperate '/home' partition.   
      
   I used 'SystemRescueCd' which contains 'GParted',   
   from : http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page   
   (It's a Linux system on a bootable CD-ROM)   
   which meant I wasn't working with a *live* file system.   
   (Been there, done that, got the (mental) scars to prove it !)   
   >   
   >I got eventual success by deleting the new partitions (outside of Linux)    
   >so providing unallocated space (in the same areas as the previous    
   >partitions) and then GpartED got moving and it installed.   
   >   
   >Now I have to research how to boot up onto the USB external drive that    
   >contains my new installation. (The Bios settings are OK but the bootfile    
   >obviously isn't.)  I hope to get it working someday, but can't rely on    
   >it.  I think a lot more development is taking place all the time and    
   >hope the feed back from novices like me help to get it right.   
      
   To be honest, as a long time Windows user (DOS 6.22) I've been   
   'dabbling' with Linux installs since the last century (1998) and have   
   *never* managed to get one to work to my satisfaction.   
      
   I've taken the 'bootable CD' route with Linux and, to date, have   
   tried half-a-dozen (with probably more to come). The only major   
   problem I've had is connecting to my wireless network and Ubuntu   
   was the first I've tried that even *saw* the PCMCIA card in my laptop.   
      
   Now, I don't regard the lack of hardware recognition as a purely   
   Ubuntu problem, it's a general Linux problem caused by the   
   manufacturers but if, like me, your current Win set-up does what you   
   need you begin to wonder if it makes sense in switching to "free"   
   software if you have to buy and replace hardware in order to do so.   
      
   The other argument is as follows; instead of paying £x (or $x) to the   
   likes of Micro$oft and/or $ymantec for their latest "update",   
   I make a one-off payment for a piece of hardware with suitable   
   Linux ' Windows drivers and that's it ! Sounds good to me.    
      
      
       
   Cushie, excuse my asking but why are you trying to boot a new   
   (unknown) system from USB rather than CD ?   
   (I'm a great believer in 'KISS')   
      
   -- jjj   
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