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|    Paul Quinn to alexander koryagin    |
|    question about NNTP    |
|    30 Apr 14 16:49:56    |
      Hi! Alexander,              On 30/04/14 15:11, you wrote:               PQ>> The backbone to the system rides on a world-wide network called        PQ>> Fidonet. (Check the Wikipedia for more information.) There are many        PQ>> other Fidonet-style networks, formed for specific purposes.               ak> Well, it seems to me, it is correct to say that NNTP is the protocol        ak> of USENET network. There are many USENET servers; every of them can        ak> contain up to 100 thousand groups. Fidonet is a different network, but        ak> it can be seen in USENET. The messages from any Fidonet echo can be        ak> copied to USENET server, and all USENET users can read them or write        ak> new.              Yes. All that you say is true. There are many exceptions however. The       primary difference between Fidonet and USENET is that our Fido servers are our       own PCs, and not huge 'server' machines in data centres serviced by       technicians.               ak> But actually they use USENET, not Fidonet.              Yes, with exceptions.               ak> The computer that transfers the Fidonet echos to USENET groups is        ak> called "gate" (at least in Russia). I believe that        ak> quinnspost.nodelist.net is such a gate, and, besides, it is actually a        ak> USENET server.              Agreed, with respect to the gates as you describe them. OTOH, q       innspost.nodelist.net is /not/ such a thing. It is a pure Fidonet system with       a Fidonet mailer, a BBS and a NNTP server (serving only Fidonet echoes       [groups]), and a mailing list server (serving only a subset of Fidonet echoes       to email users). The NNTP software installed & configured _here_ is a Fidonet       program, designed by a Fidonet programmer, for use by Fidonet system       operators, and, to serve Fidonet users.              You may find that some (most?) Russian gate systems serve not only Fidonet       echoes but also USENET groups. You may also discover that these systems are       run from Russian businesses, on company time and funding.               ak> It seems to me that USENET network has nothing to do with Fidonet        ak> network. Both of them can live separately and independently. Fidonet        ak> can live even without Internet.              Yes. We use 'the internet' for transport (file transfer protocols) & access       services only (NNTP protocols). You will see the difference between the two       networks when you go to make new/reply posts and cannot enter a 'To:"       addressee on a USENET newsgroup. Some Fidonet NNTP systems can, particularly       in the case of systems using the NNTP software installed here.               ak> So, my question was rather about USENET network. Does it has the main        ak> server and other servers read/write news through it?              I'm not an authority on the USENET. However, I will hazard a guess and say       that it uses a similar methodology of the "store & forward" style as does       Fidonet, where messages are shared between peer systems. There ought *not* be       a central server since this would go against the basic reason for having an       internet, where mail packets can be routed around any single system failure,       and, held until a system comes back online.              Cheers,       Paul.              --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox        * Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)    |
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