TK> Could it be that your msgbase for that echo is broken some way?   
      
    BF>    That is pretty obvious. It's unfortunate that JoHo and Mats   
    BF> Wallin left Fidonet so soon after they developed the Jam message   
    BF> base, or we would probably have a load of maintenance tools for it   
    BF> by now.   
      
   there's at least one by the original TimED coder, IIRC...   
      
    BF>    It's enough that you get one bad message among the tens of   
    BF> thousands that you may have, to make e.g. a purge program fail.   
      
    BF>    But FrontDoor can't even handle a Jam message base with more   
    BF> than 16k messages in it...   
      
   really?? then how is my FrontDoor's FM message readers doing so, then?? i have   
   30000 in the COOKING echo alone and have no problems running back and forth   
   thru them... then there's FIDONEWS with only 22000 and FM has no problems   
   there... and there's always FD_BETA with its 19500 and no problems traversing   
   all of those...   
      
   perhaps you are using the wrong tool(s) somehow??   
      
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