ml> because you're evidently running beta5 of the 1.0 code... i don't konw   
   ml> how many betas there were before the 1.0 release code came out... you   
   ml> need to find the 1.0 release archive and use that instead of that beta   
   ml> stuff you have... that may be the whole problem... that jamnntpd binary   
   ml> could easily have bugs if it is beta code...   
      
   It looks like more things were added to the beta5 package. Like UTF-8, and   
   a couple text files. Unless they were removed for the final release.   
      
   Then again _I started this thread using the original 1.0_. When that one   
   didn't work, I tried the 1.0b5, which didn't work either.   
      
   ml> what are the other echotags, please? i only know of the one and that   
   ml> mainly because one of my downlinks took the lazy way out and turned on +*   
   ml> to my areafix which turned on all areas instead of just those they were   
   ml> interested in :/   
      
   They are not Fidonet echos. James posts in othernets as well.   
      
   ml> so, removing old messages is fine... renumbering the bases is not...   
      
   Okay got it. I pack the bases via the Mystic utilities, so the BBS is aware   
   of it, but the reader was not. Granted, I completely removed the account   
   from the reader on a few occasions, so there had been times where the bases   
   weren't packed when the newsreader linked to it.   
      
   Either way, that only seemed to be a portion of the problem. I'm hoping   
   removing the BBS from the project will solve the issue.   
      
   ml> yes and yes... but i'm starting to wonder now if you've been renumbering   
   ml> your message areas when you pack out old messages... if so, it is no   
   ml> wonder that the reader is pulling some messed up stuff...   
      
   That very well could be. One of the jamnntpd packages I had had an HPT   
   related text file that said not to use "hpt pack" (Why, I don't know, it   
   has nothing to do with echomail, only netmail AFAIK). Either way, I've got   
   some work to do yet.   
      
   I may just change the settings on my Mystic JAM areas, delete the areas   
   completely, re-create them, and rescan all messages from my hub system   
   again, so as to have non-packed areas to start with.. and see what happens   
   from there.   
      
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