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   PID: Synchronet 3.20a-Linux master/476ebaa58 Dec 29 2024 GCC 14.2.1   
   TID: SBBSecho 3.23-Linux master/476ebaa58 Dec 29 2024 GCC 14.2.1   
   BBSID: PHARCYDE   
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   NOTE: tin/2.6.4-20241224 ("Helmsdale") (Linux/6.12.7-arch1-1 (x86_64))   
   Hey All!   
      
   The latest release of tin (v2.6.4) now does not work with Smapinntpd or   
   Jamnntpd (the previous release did), and I'm not sure why just yet. It gets   
   the groups as well as displays the number of new messages, subscribes, etc,   
   but when you try to view the list of articles it shows a blank screen and   
   marks all messages read when you back out of the article list.   
      
   This began within the past year of tin snapshots, but I couldn't figure out   
   which one, since snapshots were always replaced with new ones, and the code   
   isn't up on github or anything. I waited to report anything until there was an   
   actual public release to see if anything would change during that time, and it   
   hasn't.   
      
   I haven't been able to view or create any error logs yet, except that "Xref"   
   isn't used by the server which may slow things down in tin (I don't think   
   that's the problem since the old version reported this, also), and this new   
   version does indeed work fine with Synchronet's NNTP server, as I'm using that   
   to post this message.   
      
   slrn (hasn't been updated in awhile) and Thunderbird (who's NNTP code probably   
   hasn't been touched in awhile, either) both work fine with Smapinntpd/Jamnntpd   
   still. So something has changed in tin, but I think it's safe to guess the   
   problem probably lies in Smapinntpd/Jamnntpd's aged code, since the developers   
   of tin are _very_ keen and strict to the standards they follow, and   
   Smapinntpd/Jamnntpd was basically created for Fidonet-specific usage.   
      
   If anyone cares to try it out and possibly help debug, the latest version can   
   be found at http://tin.org and will need to be built for whatever platform   
   you're going to use it on.   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
   ... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.   
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