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   Nicholas Boel to Tommi Koivula   
   space oddity (fixes)   
   21 Apr 24 07:04:42   
   
   MSGID: 1:154/10 662500d8   
   REPLY:  54ffe0ab   
   PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux 2.4.1   
   CHRS: UTF-8 4   
   TZUTC: -0500   
   TID: hpt/lnx 1.9 2024-02-05   
   Hello Tommi,   
      
   On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:09:26 GMT, you wrote:   
      
    NB>>> So, if HotdogEd doesn't support format=flowed, wouldn't it be   
    NB>>> better to use 'flowed=off'?   
      
    NB>>> Or while using HotdogEd with flowed=off, it still wraps at the 72/79   
    NB>>> columns set by jam/smapinntpd, which then HotdogEd would still   
    NB>>> wrap the text early because it doesn't have that many columns on the   
    NB>>> screen?   
      
    TK>> In my phone screen the width is about 58 characters. So it wraps   
    TK>> first at 58, then at 79. :(   
      
    TK>> The weird thing is that using a "real" nntp server this is not   
    TK>> happening...   
      
    TK> Quote test hotdoged WendzelNNTPd.   
      
   Both of your quotes went way past 79 characters. I had to reflow them manually   
   so they looked ok. I didn't bother with CTRL-R in TB because they were all   
   mashed together with initials so I figured it would be worse.   
      
   So it seems that when you write with a format=flowed newsreader (ie:   
   Thunderbird), it is indeed one long line (or at least that's how it is stored   
   in the message base, and shown to another format=flowed client. Then when   
   quoted by HotdogEd, it remains one long line (which shouldn't happen to quoted   
   text). I think quoted text should probably still be reflowed to within the   
   72-79 character limit to stay backwards compatible - Especially when adding   
   initials, etc. However, the newly written text can be one long line in which   
   the next reader's software would fit it into their screen dimentions.   
      
   I think jam/smapinntpd reflows the quoted text until it can't. Every time a   
   quote is quoted again, the quote characters + initials keep moving to the   
   right, lengthening the original line, and then when there is not enough space   
   left, it will wrap some of the text on to the next line, without reflowing it,   
   because I don't think it knows how to reflow initials. This may just be a   
   smartquote issue, or maybe not. Just what I've noticed.   
      
   Not sure why HotdogEd is wrapping at 58 and 79, though. Could that just be a   
   screen length issue in HotdogEd, since you did mention when you turn the   
   screen sideways it displays better.   
      
   Just wondering if HotdogEd is defaulted to wrapping at 79 characters, but on a   
   phone turned vertical you don't actually have that many characters. Have you   
   tried HotdogEd on a tablet or something with a bigger screen?   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
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