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|    Carlos Navarro to Nicholas Boel    |
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|    07 Apr 24 10:36:11    |
      TID: FMail-W64 2.3.1.0       TZUTC: 0200       CHRS: UTF-8 4       MSGID: 2:341/234.1 66125b0f       REPLY: 1:154/10 660f29c0       04 Apr 2024 17:29, you wrote to me:               CN>> Nevertheless, those are the suggested values (that JamNNTPd        CN>> uses). Other numbers could be used instead, as long as they are        CN>> 78 or less.               NB> Ok. So it's doing what it should be doing, then?              Yes.               CN>> The code block for format=flowed appends spaces to the end of        CN>> wrapped lines and does the 'space stuffing' at the beginning        CN>> (inserts extra space if it begins with space), as defined in the        CN>> RFC.               NB> Why would you want to stuff spaces at the beginning of a line if it        NB> starts with a space? What is the reasoning behind that?              It seems it's because of this:              -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=       Space-Stuffing               In order to allow for unquoted lines which start with ">", and to        protect against systems which "From-munge" in-transit messages        (modifying any line which starts with "From " to ">From "),        Format=Flowed provides for space-stuffing.       [...]       -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=               NB> I think the problem comes in to play with this example:               NB> Quoting a 78 (78 is just an example, it could probably be anywhere        NB> from 74 or 75 or more characters) character line with smartquote will        NB> not reformat the line back to 78 characters (or within the 79 line        NB> width limit it should be at). It will then append the space, initials,        NB> quote character, and another space.. now making it 4 or 5 characters        NB> longer. This will then wrap the last word to the next line and it        NB> won't have a quote character in front of it.               NB> I would imagine it would also do this without smartquote enabled,        NB> however it wouldn't add as many characters to the line, so you would        NB> see the issue less (only when a line hits 77 or 78 characters        NB> probably).              That's a different issue....              I intend to experiment a bit with Thunderbird's mailnews.wraplength setting.       Maybe a value higher than the default (72) would work better with Fidonet (but       there may be other problems...)               NB> Golded seems to handle this, but Golded also seems to support        NB> displaying quoted lines longer than 79 characters, which may very well        NB> be because of the issue(s) above.              GoldED is great with handling all types of quotes. I'm afraid we cannot expect       all newsreaders to work fine with FTN-style quotes (AFAIK only HotdogEd does).              Carlos              --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707        * Origin: cyberiada (2:341/234.1)       SEEN-BY: 15/0 90/1 103/705 105/81 106/201 124/5016 128/260 135/220       SEEN-BY: 135/225 153/757 7715 154/10 30 203/0 218/700 221/0 6 226/30       SEEN-BY: 227/114 229/110 112 113 206 307 317 426 428 470 664 700 240/1120       SEEN-BY: 240/5832 266/512 280/464 5003 5555 282/1038 291/111 292/8125       SEEN-BY: 301/1 310/31 320/219 322/757 341/66 234 342/200 396/45 423/120       SEEN-BY: 460/58 467/888 633/267 280 412 418 2744 712/848 770/1 5020/400       PATH: 341/234 280/464 633/280 229/426           |
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