Hello mark,   
      
   On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 19:02:00 -0500, mark lewis -> Nicholas Boel wrote:   
      
    NB>> Even if your message bases were set to renumber, I doubt any client   
    NB>> would ever know that.   
      
    ml> they don't but the problem is that when you go to pull new posts and   
    ml> miss the ones between your last pull and the renumber... let me try to   
    ml> explain that batter...   
      
   Why? I know what renumbering does to 3rd party software. You don't have to   
   explain it to me.   
      
    ml> now consider if the BBS hasn't pulled 25 since it purged and   
    ml> renumbered... when your client requests #50, there is no #50 on the   
    ml> BBS... now what?   
      
   I have never seen your example actually happen. Most of the time the reader   
   just completely loses track and shows some ridiculous number (I have seen   
   65535 in Golded specifically in the past, while in an actual newsreader I   
   believe it may have been double that - mind you this was with a message base   
   format other than JAM). When this has happened in the past, I just stopped   
   messing with it, and stopped renumbering altogether. I learned my lesson at   
   that point and have never tried it again nor cared enough to study it further,   
   since it really can't be fixed without just NOT doing it.   
      
   *Then again, I also do not want my message base starting at any number besides   
   1. So that usually leads to me just backing up and wiping the message bases   
   completely, starting fresh again until they reach an annoying amount.   
      
   Also, now that I've moved the BBS away from being the hub system (it's now a   
   leaf node).. I can now pack/purge/renumber on it however I want to since the   
   only way to access it's message bases is by telnetting to it or using the   
   built in webserver, which all work nicely with any kind of maintenance you do   
   on those bases.   
      
   The hub setup is now these JAM areas which area only accessible via JamNNTPd   
   to anyone other than myself, so obviously I can't (and won't) renumber these.   
   At some point I'll take a look at the "hptutil pack" feature and make sure it   
   does not renumber. If it does, I'll just revert back to the starred paragraph   
   above. :)   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
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