10 Nov 16 08:44, you wrote to me:   
      
    ml>> which RFC? CAPABILITIES is not required by RFC977 or by RFC-2980...   
    ml>> JAMNNTPd doesn't suppport 3977, 4643, or 4644... someone has gotten   
    ml>> something mixed up somewhere... JAMNNTPd is still a Model T... it is   
    ml>> not a Lexus... you can have any color you want as long as it is   
    ml>> black...   
      
    RC> You repsonded that the client should send CAPABILITIES and then take   
    RC> action based on that list on what to do.   
      
   correct but only on a limited basis... to be truely right, they should issue   
   HELP and see if CAPABILITIES is even listed... if it is /then/ issue   
   CAPABILITIES and see what those results are... if MODE-READER exists in that   
   output, /then/ issue it and be happy... anything else is assuming something   
   not in evidence and one is explicitly told that with a 500 code... too many   
   are not learning to crawl before they walk... you must start at the beginning   
   and take each step as necessary to reach the next level... cheating and taking   
   shortcuts hurts everyone...   
      
    RC> Which will I agree with,   
      
   ok...   
      
    RC> it doesn't seem to me that ANY client does that.. Maybe there are some   
    RC> that do...   
      
   there's a lot of shortcut shit out there... too many believe that the internet   
   has brought a lot of new stuff when in fact all that has happened is that old   
   stuff is simply being used like it always has and the users don't have the   
   first clue because their emperor has no clothes and they're too ignorant to   
   understand why... you took a shortcut when you assumed that JAMNNTPd supportes   
   RFC-3977 when it doesn't and never purported to do so...   
      
    RC> on Linux you pretty much have Pan, KNode, and thunderturkey, and I   
    RC> guess TIN if you stick to a CLI.   
      
   there are quite a few news clients available... Cone, Gemini, Gnus, GRN,   
   KLibido, Knews, KNode, krn, Lucy, Mahogany, SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, Newega,   
   NewsFlex, Newsleader, NN, PAN, PINE, PNNTP, Post Office, Pyne, rn, SkateNews,   
   skim, slrn, Sylpheed, tass, TIN, trn, Trulsnews, XRN, and xvnews...   
      
   )\/(ark   
      
   Always Mount a Scratch Monkey   
   Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it   
   wrong...   
   ... Stop and smell the roses and sooner or later, you'll inhale a bee.   
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