09 Nov 16 07:59, you wrote to me:   
      
    ml>> properly if they are issuing MODE READER without first ensuring that   
    ml>> MODE-READER is available in the CAPABILITIES of the news server...   
    ml>> especially if the news server is not a switching server as described   
    ml>> by the RFC...   
      
    RC> And JamNNTPd does not respond to the CAPABILITIES command, so how do   
    RC> the clients know?   
      
   because the lack of the CAPABILITIES is enough to tell them that it is not a   
   mode switching server...   
      
     if CAPABILITIES then {   
       if MODE-READER then {   
         MODE READER   
       }   
     else   
       // not a mode switching server   
       // use standard article retrieval commands   
     }   
      
   plus they could simply look at HELP and see if CAPABILITIES exists instead of   
   issuing a command that could fail...   
      
    RC> thunderturkey doesn't issue that command before issuing MODE READER   
      
   interesting... i've never looked but t-bird is one of the news readers i use   
   to test my news server with...   
      
    RC> Neither does PAN, or KNode..   
      
    RC> thrunderturkey just ignores the 500 response and issues LIST.   
      
   seems that more than one news reader has it wrong, then... or maybe t-bird has   
   it right and the others are wrong for terminating...   
      
    RC> I'd have to dig through the RFC, but I would say that is wrong..   
      
   the RFC can't be wrong... the RFC is what the rules are... software has to   
   comply with the RFCs it supports...   
      
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