Hello mark!   
      
   03 Nov 16 20:48, you wrote to Nicholas Boel:   
      
    ml> the main thing that strikes me in all of this is that fidonet is and   
    ml> always has been a hobby network for those wanting to experiment with   
      
   You, others, and I are ovbiously in this for a far different reasons!   
      
   Even in the 90's when I started originally..   
      
   I don't think of this as mainly a hobby.   
      
   And NO WAY is this an "experiment!" This is a means to a goal.   
      
   Example:   
      
   Echos are essentially "support groups" or maybe discussion groups for a topic   
   be it software, golded, binkd, jamnntpd, crashmail.....etc...   
      
   They exist to *help* others get things going or resolve a problem.. at least   
   thats the goal, as *I* see it...   
      
   Then as now, I operated my node to get access to those echos primarily, and to   
   send emails all over the place via FTN tech... I later setup a UUCP gate for   
   emails from the local net to go out via my UUCP account. I setup and   
   maintained a private FTN net to get a very old niche group into the at the   
   time cutting edge stuff. That group doesn't exist... run over by ...   
   nevermind.. suffice it .. run over by the web....   
      
   I prefer echos v. web forums.. I am just not into that...never was.. part of   
   some of the things I do right now via some Yahoo things are going to move to   
   FTN based stuff, or more aptly RETURN to it. As I know VZW will start chopping   
   off the dead wood, and this is definitely one of them.   
      
    ml> store-and-forward networking... i really have to wonder, sometimes, if   
    ml> some folks just don't know that or if they may have lost that   
    ml> vision... this especially pertains to some of our Z2 brethern who are   
      
   I don't know what the issue or schizim is with Z2 and/or others v. Z1.. and   
   honeslty I don't care.... but what I do see is that in this there is the same   
   issue..as here.   
      
   Simply, you, others and I are on different ends of the spectrum of things.. I   
   am not here to exeriment, and this aint no hobby!   
      
   If that is how you view it, then that is your take...   
      
   Just as many things have an impact on how I view compiling.... and bluntly   
   this fiasco has done nothing to change, but only enhance my ill view of it!   
   And since the resolution to this was to use *PRE-COMPILED* binaries anyway...   
   I think that speaks volumes enough.   
      
      
   Rick   
      
      
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