Hello Nicholas!   
      
   03 Nov 16 13:11, you wrote to mark lewis:   
      
    NB> Habitual complainer, maybe?   
      
      
    NB> It probably IS indeed up to snuff.   
      
   It either IS or IS NOT?   
      
   Which is it???   
      
    NB>  His lack of inspiration and   
      
   Lets see I wasted my free time to prove a point.. that NONE of the code in any   
   of the sources is viable.   
      
   I did that!   
      
   NONE of it is viable.. INCLUDEING the source provided in the cm071linux.zip.   
      
   It might compile.. but it bombs on execution causing a seg fault.   
      
   If it were not for the *PRE-COMPILED* *binaries* in that zip.. it would still   
   be an issue and that means moving on to the next part of this setting up   
   JamNNTPd would either still be on hold or dead, possibly..   
      
   Since the *PRE-COMPILED* *binaries* in the zip work, then moving on to   
   JamNNTPd is not possible.   
      
      
    NB> absolute refusal to try to compile anything is holding him back from   
      
   See above! Compiling rarely works! Even the code in the cm071linux.zip doesn't   
   work. YES it COMPILES, but a running it seg fault, core dump.   
      
    NB> actually testing what's "currently" there for general use.   
      
   Testing is something I do a lot of....testing in re compiling, nope.   
      
   Lets say that we want to use nginx instead of Apache, not going to happen   
   ever, but lets just use them as an example...   
      
   VM(s) would be setup to test nginx with the various things we do including   
   .htaccess, and other modules for web...   
      
   How would this testing start...   
      
   Take seup the VM with ubuntu server 14.0.4.5 and then   
      
   sudo apt-get install nginx   
      
   Then go in modify the config for some test sites... etc..   
      
      
      
    NB> It seems as though he's just going to continue to complain and blame   
    NB> everyone else for his system not working as he expects it to.   
      
   I am not blaming any one. I will say that in MY OPINION.. a lot of this could   
   have been resolved with:   
      
   Hey, grab cm071linux.zip at eljaco.se and then unzip it, and in the bin dir,   
   there are pre-compiled binaries that work.   
      
   Simple....   
      
   My reply would have been " Great, thanks... tested. works." Problem solved.   
      
   What I got was, get the source compile it yourself!   
      
   Well lets review my logs...   
      
   The source in various places, namely a certain SF site, is crap! And contains   
   the same error(s) that cause what ever fault that produces the "Error reading   
   Jam ..." Actually I have a good idea as to the issue, but I am keeping my   
   hunch to myself right now.. I have a reason.   
      
   This SAME SOURCE has some JamNNTPd code that was modified 9/10/2016 and since   
   the CM II source there is fubar'd and it is using what ever lib to access the   
   JAM base then it probably is fubar'd too, and thus will cause issue with the   
   JAM base for CM II AND JamNNTPd.   
      
   I asked in an attempt to cut off the repeat of this with JamNNTPd.. Which is   
   the CORRECT CODE BASE..What I got again could have been as simple as:   
      
   The SF site has a VALID CODE BASE, with no errors or corruption to the Jam   
   base...working good here on MegaLinux 1.2 64b....   
      
   I have a plan to make all of this a lot, whole, no ASTOUNDINGLY A LOT SIMPLER   
   for any one in the future...   
      
   DEB Repo with these in it.. to install! No compiling!   
      
   AMD64, and hopefully ARMHF for the Pi's... Have to see on that one.. I am   
   amazed that those binaries run on an AMD64 system, since for some reason alot   
   of stuff is still compiled only against 32b.   
      
   I also have a plan to fix something with JamNNTPd since using thunderturkey to   
   access it on my end is not viable, and on Linux that is not the mainline NNTP   
   client, and JamNNTPd doesn't work with it, right now.   
      
   With a working CM II at least I can move on to the next part of my setup.. I   
   can turn up the final version of the server that will host this, and some of   
   the other plans I have for it...   
      
   Rick   
      
      
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