Hello Rick,   
      
   On 31 Oct 16 19:45, Rick Christian wrote to Nicholas Boel:   
      
    RC>>> 0.71 has 5-6 files in the directory some too small to be source,   
    RC>>> no clear directions on what to use, so moved on to 0.75 instead.   
      
    RC> As per above, which of these:   
    RC> crashmail_0.71-4.diff.gz        2010-08-12      14.3 kB         0   
    RC> i crashmail_0.71-4.dsc    2010-08-12      1.1 kB  0   
    RC> i crashmail_0.71-3.diff.gz        2009-07-11      14.0 kB         0   
    RC> i crashmail_0.71-3.dsc    2009-07-11      1.1 kB  0   
    RC> i cm071linux.zip  2009-02-17      361.6 kB        0   
    RC> i crashmail_0.71-2.diff.gz        2007-09-02      4.0 kB  0   
    RC> i crashmail_0.71-2.dsc    2007-09-02      567 Bytes       0   
    RC> i crashmail_0.71-1.diff.gz        2004-07-28      3.8 kB  0   
    RC> i crashmail_0.71-1.dsc    2004-07-28      567 Bytes       0   
    RC> i crashmail_0.71.orig.tar.gz      2004-07-28      169.9 kB   
      
    RC> Only the .orig.tar.gz and the cm071linux.zip seem to big enough to be   
    RC> source   
      
   cm071linux.zip is the original source archive (as confirmed by Paul).   
      
    RC> lets see this cm071linux.zip is big enough to have source   
      
   See? A little trial and error goes a long way!   
      
    RC> Lets throw the library of PKTs at it!   
      
    RC> Area NETMAIL -- 10 messages   
    RC> Area PERSONAL_MESSAGES -- 77 messages   
    RC> Area BINKD -- 151 messages   
    RC> Area NET135 -- 3 messages   
    RC> Area NET135FILE -- 104 messages   
    RC> Area NET135HUB -- 122 messages   
    RC> Area FIDONEWS -- 224 messages   
    RC> Area RBERRYPI -- 110 messages   
    RC> Area JAMNNTPD -- 150 messages   
      
    RC>    Total ->     Read messages:    881     Written messages:      7   
    RC> Imported -> Imported messages:    874      Routed netmails:      7   
    RC>      Bad ->      Bad messages:      0   Duplicate messages:      0   
      
    RC> Scanning for orphan files   
    RC> Scanning for old packets   
    RC> Scanning for new files to pack   
    RC> Sending unpacked netmail to 1:135/300.0 (Normal)   
    RC> Linking JAM area BINKD   
    RC> Linking JAM area NET135   
    RC> Linking JAM area NET135FILE   
    RC> Linking JAM area NET135HUB   
    RC> Linking JAM area FIDONEWS   
    RC> Linking JAM area RBERRYPI   
    RC> Linking JAM area JAMNNTPD   
    RC> Scanning all areas for messages to export   
    RC> Scanning area NETMAIL   
    RC> Scanning area TESTECHO   
    RC> Scanning area TEST   
    RC> Scanning area BINKD   
    RC> Scanning area NET135   
    RC> Scanning area NET135FILE   
    RC> Scanning area NET135HUB   
    RC> Scanning area FIDONEWS   
    RC> Scanning area RBERRYPI   
    RC> Scanning area JAMNNTPD   
      
    RC> No messages exported   
    RC> Scanning for orphan files   
    RC> Scanning for old packets   
    RC> Scanning for new files to pack   
    RC> CrashMail end   
    RC> rec9140@fidodev:~/cmzip/crashmail-0.71/bin$   
      
    RC> So... hmmm.. THIS file seems to work... as no error can't read   
    RC> messages...   
      
   CONTRATS!   
      
    RC> I've spent the better part of 20+ hours on this over the past 2   
    RC> days...   
      
    RC> Thats TOO MUCH! I've moved servers with less headaches in less time   
    RC> than that.   
      
   Had you listened to some of us (especially Paul) in the first place, you would   
   not have spent so much time with headaches.   
      
    RC> It should be far simpler.. sudo apt-get install .... edit configs move   
    RC> on.   
      
   This is Fidonet and FTN software. Most of it does NOT make it into specific   
   Linux distribution repositories and/or package managers. And obviously as you   
   can see, when they do make it there, they are left alone untested and quite   
   possibly broken (as in this case you've just witnessed).   
      
    RC> Now it appears that possibly I've found a version that is the   
    RC> "original" version.   
      
    RC> Which you could have posted:   
      
    RC> "Hey grab this file... cm071linux.zip at..http://......." and then run   
    RC> this.   
      
   I didn't realize you being a linux guy for so many years still needed your   
   hand held?   
      
    RC> EXPUNGE the DEB's in the repos. and all the other files on the source   
    RC> thingy and elsewhere... and see what kind of DEB's I can create that   
    RC> will install a WORKING version of this....   
      
   You're probably better off using the binaries included with the original   
   release, rather than trying to go through hoops to get it put into the Debian   
   repositories. Since the better part of 5 people total seem to actually be   
   using that tosser.   
      
    RC> I am not sure yet how to test this on the working setup.. I guess I   
    RC> can run a parallel setup with the MSG format till it works and toss in   
    RC> things to a test JAM setup.... don't know.   
      
    RC> I need booze right now... and lots of it....   
      
   SAME! :)   
      
    RC> I've got to get my notes into some sort of readable fashion and then   
    RC> work on testing it, and then getting this online so NOBODY ever goes   
    RC> through this crap again!   
      
   Going through that crap was completely unnecessary. You were told from the   
   beginning that 0.71 was the original release, and that you should use that. It   
   was you who decided to try two other versions prior to that one, because you   
   found some broken (and obviously untested) packages in the Debian repositories.   
      
   If you want to go about getting those packages removed from the repos, you may   
   want to talk to RJ Clay (1:120/544), as I believe he's the guy that attempts   
   to make deb packages out of FTN software. If it truly is broken, maybe he can   
   fix it?   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
   ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."   
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