Mv> What I do have a problem with is that he sits on the source. Assuming he s   
   Mv> has it of course. Many programmers who lost interest and left Fidonet have   
   Mv> released the source of their product into the public domain. Golded and Fm   
   Mv> come to mind. That way their products live on and benefit the Fidonet    
   Mv> community.   
      
   Mv> But Charles just sits on it. :-(   
      
   He is one of very many.  FASTECHO comes to mind as it was my tosser back   
   in the day and I think it has a website and no updates or code.  Its just   
   going to happen I think.  Some people do not care anymore even to spend   
   the few hours to go open source.  There are a zillion and one doors and   
   utilities, etc that never will have their code released.   
      
   However, on another message network someone recently claimed that they had   
   just paid (within a month or so) for IREX and received a response and a key.   
      
   *If* that is true, to me its fraud and it needs to be stopped.   
      
   He needs to release it, or work on it (if he really is still taking peoples   
   money).  Or we need to start a project to replace it (open sourced).  I   
   have an open sourced framework that when combined with Argus or something   
   could recreate IREX and then some with only a little group effort from   
   programmers.   
      
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