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   Michiel van der Vlist to Ward Dossche   
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   08 Dec 18 09:03:01   
   
   Hello Ward,   
      
   On Saturday December 08 2018 00:05, you wrote to me:   
      
    Mv>> What happens iof you try to ping fido.vlist.eu?   
      
    WD> **********************************************************************   
    WD> Pinging fido.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555]   
    WD> with 32 bytes of data:   
      
    WD> Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555: time=25ms   
      
   So far so good.   
      
   You definitely have IPv6 and not just that, you have full dual stack. You  not   
   only have a block of IPv6 addresses, you also still have a public IPv4   
   address. Consider yourself lucky.   
      
    Mv>> Go to the setup of your router and look for a setting to enable   
    Mv>> ICMP or PING for IPv6.   
      
    WD> I think there may be a problem there. The router is ISP-provided and   
    WD> pretty good. However there are 3 lvels to log into "User", "Admin" and   
    WD> "Expert" and they only give-out the password for "User".   
      
    WD> That level is too low to do what you ask.   
      
   Oh....  That sucks. Consider yourself not so lucky...   
      
   Maybe you still have a friend at Belgacom that can "arrange" something for   
   you. Maybe there are some tricks to raise your access level. Google is your   
   friend. An maybe we do not need it for now. Ping is nice, but not essantial.   
      
    WD> Let me get to their local shop on Monday and see if they understand   
    WD> what I'm talking about ...   
      
   Don't be surprised if you get a blank stare if you ask about IPv6...   
      
    Mv>> Hmmm... click om the "general" button on the top..   
      
    WD> IPv6 connectivity   
      
    WD> Ipv6      Supported   
    WD> Address   2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60   
    WD> Type      Native IPv6   
    WD> SLAAC     No   
    WD> ICMP      Filtered   
    WD> Hostname  None   
    WD> ISP       Belgacom   
      
    WD> Browser   
    WD> Default   IPv6   
    WD> Fallback  to IPv4 in <1 second   
      
    WD> DNS   
    WD> DNS4+IP6  Reachable   
    WD> DNS6+IP4  Reachable   
    WD> DNS6+IP6  Reachable   
      
   Good, except for one thing. "ICMP filtered". IPv6 requires ICMP to properly   
   functionm but not all of ICMP is needed. YMMV...   
      
   What puzzels me is that you obviously have outgoing IPv6 capability and your   
   OS is configuerd to first try IPv6. A very simple quick test is here:   
      
   www.kame.net   
      
   If you see the turtle dance, you have outgoing IPv6.   
      
   What puzzles me is that your binkd does not make outgoing IPv6 calls. AFAIK,   
   all versions of binkd that support IPv6 default to the OS preference when   
   choosing between IPv4 and IPv6. In your case IPv6.   
      
   Binkd should make outgoing IPv6 calls. But it does not, you come in with IPv4   
   in my logs.    
   Binkd can be forced to use either IPv4 or IPv6 on an outgoing call, but that   
   is not the default.   
      
   There may be something in the interface between D'Bridge and Binkd that I am   
   unaware of. Kees should be your man, AFAIK he is the only Fidonet sysop that   
   got D'Bridge to do IPv6.    
    Mv>> No incoming IPv6 yet.   
      
   With IPv4 you have to make an entry in the NAT table to allow incoming. With   
   IPv6 there is nno NAT. Every device on the LAN has its own public IPv6   
   address. No need to do address translation.   
      
   By default the IPv6 firewall in the router will drop every unsollicited   
   incomong IPv6 packet. To allow incoming one has to punch a hole in the   
   firewall for the port(s) and destination(s).   
      
   In order to "help" users, router manufacturers sometimes call it "forwarding"   
   anyway. Sometimes it is in the same page as the IPv4 forwarding, sometimes it   
   a separate IPv6 page. So you have to look in the firewall settings for "port   
   forwarding" or "opening ports" or something like that.   
      
   Since there is no translation, you specify just two parameters. The port   
   number or port range and the destination. Sometimes the destination can be an   
   IPv6 address, some also allow a MAC address.   
      
   If your router allows it I recommend using :: for the destination addres for   
   port 24554. :: stands for "all IPv6 adresses" That way you never have to   
   change it any more. And the risk of allowing port 24554 to all destinations in   
   your LAn is minimal. If your router does not allow :: use the MAc address or   
   IPv6 address of the destination.   
      
      
   Cheers, Michiel   
      
   --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303   
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