On 8/14/2018 5:49 PM, Victor Sudakov : Michiel van der Vlist   
      
   >  MV> And the ISPs get away with it because for the vast majority of   
   >  MV> customers evrything they want just works despite CGNAT. It is just us   
   >  MV> and other nerds that want a true P2P channel, that have problems. :-(   
   >   
   > AFAIK in Russia all mobile devices are NATed. I've never seen a   
   > non-RFC1918 address on a mobile connection.   
   >   
   > Some operators offer the option "real IP", for additional money of course.   
      
   In Finland we have one mobile operator that offers public ipv4 address   
   with ipv6 /64. By default the ipv4 is natted, but changing APN gives me   
   public ipv4.   
      
   No extra cost. ;)   
      
   'Tommi   
      
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