Dear Michiel,   
      
   13 Aug 18 22:36, you wrote to Tony Langdon:   
      
    TL>> Sadly, the vast majority of people don't understand or care, so   
    TL>> nasty stuff like IPv4 CGN proliferates, while IPv6 hardly reaches   
    TL>> the consumers. :(   
      
    MV> And the ISPs get away with it because for the vast majority of   
    MV> customers evrything they want just works despite CGNAT. It is just us   
    MV> and other nerds that want a true P2P channel, that have problems. :-(   
      
   AFAIK in Russia all mobile devices are NATed. I've never seen a non-RFC1918   
   address on a mobile connection.   
      
   Some operators offer the option "real IP", for additional money of course.   
      
   Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN   
   --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20160322-b20160322   
    * Origin: Ulthar (2:5005/49)