-=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-   
      
    TL> From a message transfer point of view, IP protocol doesn't matter.   
      
    MvV> Some claim that IPv6 is slightly faster than IPv4.   
    MvV> http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2016-08/v6perf.html   
    MvV> But even if that claim can be substantiated, it is irrelevant for   
    MvV> Fidonet.   
      
   Yeah any speed difference is not going to be significant for Fidonet, that's   
   for sure.   
      
    TL> Most people would regard timely delivery as the measure of   
    TL> "efficiency".   
      
    MvV> Reliability and stability of the connection is also a factor I'd say.   
      
   Yes, I'd agree there, they impact on timely delivery too. :)   
      
    TL> If the fastest path goes via IPv4 or even dialup, who cares?   
      
    MvV> In the case of dialup: those who's dial up line involves cost, as often   
    MvV> was the case in the POTS only days...   
      
   Yes, but if the Internet is really dodgy in some place, it's still an option.   
      
    TL> (other than people in this echo ;) ).   
      
    MvV> Well, /here/ is where the people in this echo can be found. So most of   
    MvV> the people that read this probably do care. Call me en elitist, but   
    MvV> supporting IPv6 still isn't an automatism. It requires some extra   
    MvV> effort. My guess is that those willing and able to make that extra   
    MvV> effort have a tighter bond to their system than those who do not   
    MvV> bother. On average of course, but my impressiosn is that there are a   
    MvV> lot of nodes that just run on inertia rather than active sysop   
    MvV> involvement. You will find less of those among the members of the IPv6   
    MvV> club.   
      
   Yes, you need to take active steps in a lot of cases, IPv6 may not be   
   automatically enabled in some Fido software (that supports it).  Network wise,   
   it depends on your ISP.  Mine enables IPv6 by default and all of the routers   
   they provide support IPv6 out of the box, so at the network level it should   
   "just work".  Wasn't the case for me, but that's because I added IPv6 before it   
   went into production.  It was still a trial service (back in early 2011), and I   
   had to turn it on to enable the trial, once I had a router that was IPv6   
   capable.  That trial service did eventually become the production service I'm   
   on today.   
      
    TL> That said, I will encourage IPv6 support where possible, and run IPv6   
    TL> on all of my systems that support it (which is almost everything).   
      
    MvV> Same here. Plus that when adding new links and having to make a choice,   
    MvV> I prefer to link to the IPv6 capable node over linking to the IPv4 only   
    MvV> node.   
      
   Me too, I think around 50% of my upstream links have IPv6 here.   
      
      
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