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   Michiel van der Vlist to Bj”rn Felten   
   ARIN's well has run dry   
   26 Sep 15 00:16:09   
   
   Hello Bj”rn,   
      
   On Friday September 25 2015 16:40, you wrote to me:   
      
    MvdV>> It is done. This morning they still has 4 /24 left. Now it is   
    MvdV>> all gone:   
      
    BF>    As was expected, you can still get ONE IPv4 address -- if you are   
    BF> willing to pay $10-12 per address.   
      
    BF>    The ISPs are really sucking as much money out of this as they   
    BF> can...   
      
   Of course it was expected. We have seen this coming for at least a decade. We   
   didn't know when exactly it was going to happen, but that it would happen was   
   a certainty.   
      
   And, yes there is a market for IPv4 adresses, there is demand and there is   
   supply, so there is a price. The going rate is indeed some EUR 10,-   
      
    BF>    Typical western style capitalism. Create an artificial shortage and   
    BF> make lots of money on the resulting supply and demand economy.   
      
   I disagree with your analysis that the ISP's are milking this cow and that the   
   shortage is artificially created. As I see it, there is nothing artificial   
   about the shortage. It is simply a well running dry. Yes, the ISP are dragging   
   their feet in the introduction of IPv6. But I do not see how that is to their   
   financial advantage. As I see it, they only benefit in the short run. In the   
   long run the late adopters are at a disadvantage. The longer they wait, the   
   steeper the slope they have to climb to catch up. That costs...   
      
    BF>    Whatever happened to the old internet wants to be free spirit...?   
      
   The internet was never free. To function, the Internet needs hardware, it   
   needs copper or fibre to connect things and it needs electricity. It also   
   needs people to do the maintenance. All that can not be free. If it ever   
   appeared to be free that was because someone else was paying the bill.   
      
   So.. How is your ISP (Telia?) doing with IPv6. Have they mentioned an   
   introduction date?    
      
   Cheers, Michiel   
      
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