Re: BBS security (was Freenet   
     By: Ole Juul to Access Denied on Mon Feb 15 2010 02:41 am   
      
    > E-mail address makes sense because it is verifiable. So does   
    > a phone number verifier like we used to use. Of course, if a   
    > person uses POTS to connect they might not have an internet   
    > connection and vice versa. Some of the other information makes   
    > sense as well from a social point of view.   
      
   And there you go. Now you have your reasoning behind the madness. That's why we   
   ask people for a little bit of information about themselves.   
      
   Which also brings up the fact that most web forums I've applied on also ask you   
   for your location, email address, and some other information. And I'd bet most   
   of their (webmasters) reasons for asking for this information would be much the   
   same as what we've told you about BBSes.   
      
    > However the   
    > idea of connecting directly to someone's computer is difficult   
    > for me to understand. When is that not the case? You have to   
    > connect to a computer in all cases don't you? Yes, a web   
    > server may not belong to the content owner, or he may be   
    > renting. Often in fact people _do_ own the server. I'm not   
    > sure what the importance of that can be. Nor does it matter   
    > if they keep the server at home or if they have it at some   
    > other location. Whether you're running apache or MBE doesn't   
    > seem to be relevant either. Is it?   
      
   See this is what I was ranting about in the message you replied to. You are   
   either really slow, or are just purposely playing dumb to annoy people.   
      
   Most BBSes are run at home on your own personal computer. It's been that way   
   since the 70s or 80s when BBSing came to be --    
      
   If you really want to see what BBSing is/was all about, watch the BBS   
   documentary. It will explain a lot of things to you.   
      
    > kinds of comments that I see. To me there is nothing wrong with   
    > moderation in a situation like that. YMMV   
      
   So you're a Communist? That explains a lot. See, I believe in "Freedom of   
   Speech." If you don't like it, ignore it. Simple as that.   
      
   Now if the rules were specified beforehand (ie: Fidonet), then sure.. abide by   
   the rules or don't contribute. Those rules aren't set like that in either one   
   of the networks you mentioned before. Therefore you'll have those kind of   
   people. They can just as easily be ignored though.   
      
    > I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at regarding coming   
    > here or going there. They're not my web forums. I put up web pages   
    > and services for other people to use and I don't expect compensation   
    > or ask for user information, and that is what is prompting me to ask   
    > what the real difference is with the BBS world.   
      
   We started talking about web forums, not web pages. If you put up web forums   
   and don't ask for user information, I must say you would be the first I've ever   
   seen or heard of.    
      
   We don't expect compensation for BBSes either. But if you haven't seen web   
   forum ask for user information, there's something seriously wrong with you.   
   There isn't a *huge* difference between the two really. Mainly BBSes were   
   first, then the same kind of idea was taken to the web when that became   
   popular. Some of us didn't want to make the change. *shrug*   
      
    > different when I first started using BBSs, but a lot has changed,   
    > and I think it is worthwhile having a look at what those changes   
    > really are and how to best adapt to them. In the process I was   
    > also hoping to learn something.   
      
   Not a whole lot has changed in the BBS community, except for the fact that it's   
   probably a very large fraction smaller than it once was. Some BBS softwares   
   have added in web/ftp servers to try and adapt, but the BBS is still the old   
   fashioned BBS, IMHO.   
      
   axisd   
      
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