Deuce wrote:   
      
   >   Re: #OpenBSD   
   >   By: Ash-Fox to DOVE-Net.Internet on Mon Oct 06 2008 11:53 am   
   >    
   >  > Over the years other operating systems that exceed OpenBSD in usage   
   >  > have been growing larger and larger, making OpenBSD less relevent.   
   >  > Linux distributions in particular have been a particular thorn in   
   >  > OpenBSD's side (I doubt that the OpenBSD community will admit it though   
   >  > - claiming it doesn't rival them in security, free to use for   
   >  > anything).   
   >    
   > OpenSSH is still an OpenBSD project... it is written specifically for   
   > OpenBSD,   
      
   I'm aware of the entire story, involving Tatu Ylonen opensourcing it   
   originally, then close sourcing, someone taking up maintaining it and so   
   on.   
      
   However, Tatu Ylonen did not design the original OpenSSH as just a OpenBSD   
   daemon and the current OpenSSH developers have not treated this as such   
   either. This is why OpenSSH has certain features such as it's own built in   
   randomizer, should the system not provide a acceptable one (despite the   
   fact it would never need one on OpenBSD).   
      
   > then ported to other platforms.  This is what the relavence of OpenBSD is   
   > based   
   > on.  Aside from this, OpenBSD has never been particularily relevant except   
   > for their agitation in well understood open source issues (binary blobs,   
   > closed specs, etc).   
   >    
      
   There was a time a lot of big names used OpenBSD. Right now, I can only   
   think of Playboy (all the others don't use OpenBSD anymore). No other   
   single large company comes to mind that runs OpenBSD anymore.   
      
   So, I do believe OpenBSD was more relevent in the past, just because of   
   large names using it.   
      
   >  > Much of the pro-OpenBSD user have diminished from what it used to be.   
   >  > Since then, the majority of pro-OpenBSD users in #OpenBSD (in my   
   >  > opinion) have a grudge against Linux.   
   >    
   > There are reasons for this, some of which are valid.  For example, the   
   > Linux kernel community has a poor history of behaviour when importing BSD   
   > sources.   
   >    
      
   Yes, I'm aware of the driver licensing scandals. However, it has gone both   
   ways and I can assure you before these scandals even occurred, the overall   
   dislike towards Linux was already felt. It didn't really bring   
   more 'hatred', just more to ramble about.   
      
      
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