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|    the nothing to hide argument    |
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      MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet f6da07fe       PID: OpenXP/5.0.50 (Win32)       CHRS: ASCII 1       TZUTC: -0500       I was recently steered to this a YT video (which I haven't        watched yet, 'cuz my mobile data is running low, but I will        watch at a later time):               https://youtu.be/KMtrY6lbjcY               ..but I did start to read some of the comments about it. In        the collection were some interesting remarks about the "have        nothing to hide" argument..              Viking 355th       1 month ago       When people tell me they have nothing to hide, I tell them to take their       clothes off. Suddenly they start to understand the value of privacy.              Tim K       1 month ago       You got it Peter. You may not have "something to hide" but someone else has       "something to prove" and will manipulate your data to show whatever suits       their agenda.              Sumi       3 weeks ago       The important phrase is "It's not that I have something to hide, it's that       someone else most certainly has something to find".              Joshua Daniel Nichols - Composer       2 weeks ago       I always like to bring up (I think Snowden said it first) the quote: "Not       caring about right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying       you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." This       matters for EVERYONE.              Johningham       1 month ago       "Dad, would the government ever implement a program to constantly monitor       people in the homes?" "Now Son, where would they get the resources to do       that?" My son laughed, I laughed, Alexa laughed.              Jolly RogARRR       1 month ago       Siri laughed, Bixby snorted??              Oli K       1 month ago       turns out the dystopian novels were right- what they didn't know is that we       would do it willingly.. mostly for fake internet points              GrandeTaco       1 month ago       I was like this. I thought, the alexa is only listening for key words, it       would take too much bandwidth to send everything we are saying in the house.       Then Amazon employees stated that they can listen to everything being said       inside the house.              Pyroverbs205       2 days ago       "He that is void of wisdom despiseth his neighbour: but a man of understanding       holdeth his peace. A talebearer revealeth secrets: but he that is of a       faithful spirit concealeth the matter." -Proverbs 11:12-13              Ronald Hodgson       1 month ago       It's a sad day when someone feels like they have to convince people they       should respect their privacy.              Muzik Bike       1 month ago       Let's not forget the fact that privacy isn't seen as a given or as a basic       right or expectation, it's seen as something trendy and marketable. Remember       the Freedom Phone?              NeonJohn       1 month ago        @TitanTubs Fully agree. Everyone concerned with privacy and freedoms in this       country should obtain a copy of "American Marxim" by Mark Levin. He's probably       one of the greatest philosophers and historians alive today.              sashazxtt       1 month ago       The moment the technology works, it will be outlawed.              Robert Schel       4 weeks ago (edited)       Coincidentally this is what I'm working on right now for my graduation. I       found the way they handle this privacy thing for the citizens in Estonia       really interesting. They call it e-estonia - basically, the entire country       runs on blockchain. This way everybody is the owner of their own data,       protected with a key and they can choose who they give access to their data       and for how long etc. This way bureaucratic governmental institutions are       mostly obsolete and it's pretty much impossible for your data to leak. I think       there must be some way possible to make this happen for social media too. I       may be biased but I honestly believe blockchain is the way to go concerning       privacy. I hope it works out Destin, I'm rooting for you!              Ben Barker music       4 weeks ago       Imagine when we are more integrated with tech and then having access to       absolutely everything... Neurolink and other similar technologies will have       access to everything internally and externally.... Privacy will be so       important ....              Lukasz Kucharski       1 month ago        @philohan95 The problem isn't how it negatively affects people right now,       but how it might affect people. Try this - leave your home unlocked at all the       times fora week or month and see what negative consequences does that bring.       There will probably be none, will you remove lock from your front door on this       basis? Just because it's inconceivable for you to live in a police state       doesn't mean it can't happen. Just because you don't have interesting data at       the moment, doesn't mean it's wise to strip everyone around from privacy. Many       people do have interesting data.              Brandon James       1 month ago       "I have nothing to hide" is just a failure of imagination.              Logan Spargo       1 month ago (edited)       Even if you truly "have nothing to hide" you dont break a single law ever at       any time (which is impossible). what happens when that thing you weren't       hiding suddenly becomes illegal. It has happened countless times through       history and will surely happen again and because you said you had nothing to       hide, You let the government create this huge mass surveillance apparatus that       will ultimately be your demise.              Objects in Motion       1 month ago       The laws ought to be written to fit to what people do, not the other way       around. If everybody is doing something illegal, then the solution is not to       have privacy be our defense against the government, but to change the laws to       fit society. You either have nothing to hide, are doing something that ought       not be hidden, or are actually commiting a crime. Privacy is not needed.       People really do either have nothing to hide, or do.              THUNDERBOLT       1 month ago       I have nothing to hide because they stripped me naked of my freedom and took       my clothes              ZneeZ1       1 month ago       Example: There are a lot of negotiations going on throughout our life and the       success of those are partly dependent on how well you can hide your       "thresholds". If a potential employer knows your lowest limit of salary       (and/or benefits etc), that is what you end up with. You always have things to       hide from others. This is true for almost all kind of relations, even on       "private" level, between parents and kids, between the parties in a couple,       etc.              _Ole_CornPop_       4 weeks ago       "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary       Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Thomas Jefferson.              ---              --- OpenXP 5.0.50        * Origin: (2:221/1.58)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 14/0 90/1 103/705 105/81 120/340 123/131 124/5016 129/305       SEEN-BY: 153/757 154/10 203/0 221/1 6 360 226/30 227/114 229/424 426       SEEN-BY: 229/428 452 550 664 700 240/5138 5411 5824 5832 5853 249/206       SEEN-BY: 249/317 400 280/464 5003 282/1038 292/854 8125 301/1 310/31       SEEN-BY: 317/3 320/219 322/757 341/234 342/200 396/45 423/81 120 633/280       SEEN-BY: 712/848 770/1 2432/390 2452/250 2454/119       PATH: 221/1 280/464 240/5832 229/426           |
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