TID: FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815   
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   Hi August,   
      
   On 2021-01-01 10:48:00, you wrote to me:   
      
    AA>>> WhatsApp is owned by FB now, isn't it?  If so, I'd drop it.   
      
    WvV>> Afaik it is. And would be something I would avoid as much   
    WvV>> as possible. Except I have no real choic in the matter,   
    WvV>> because I'm required to have it on my (company) phone...   
      
    AA> Ah.. then that's a different story.  But why can't your company   
    AA> [1] influence a move to the less evasive Telegram or Signal for   
    AA> example? They could broadcast an annoucement that a phase-over to   
    AA> one of the other apps is encouraged and a full migration is   
    AA> expected to take by a specif date.. OR.. [2] introduce new policy   
    AA> to use Telegram/Signal for its new customers/clients?   
      
   They probably can, but they don't want to...   
      
    AA> But the whole thing is probably one of those situations were the   
    AA> 1st-use scenario wins. Therefore, why bother with the tedious   
    AA> hassle of installing something else and have to reestablish the   
    AA> contacts from another app - especially for exisiting customers.   
      
   Indeed.   
      
    WvV>> I think privacy awareness is getting better. But people   
    WvV>> still choose the easy way. Instead of trying to convince   
    WvV>> others to use the better option, they just use what's   
    WvV>> already available/installed/used by most people.   
      
    AA> That reminds me when the various chat programs like ICQ, Jabber,   
    AA> iChat, Pidgin, AIM, etc.. were all present and different people   
    AA> chose to use a specific chat program for specific reasons they   
    AA> had. I encountered the same split of different chat programs with   
    AA> select contacts. But I think it was Pidgin that helped to   
    AA> consolidate the other chat accounts into one program. That was   
    AA> sweet.   
      
   Or the VHS vs Betamax thing! ;)   
      
    AA> It's same install issue with Signal. Since I have to install it   
    AA> on the phone to even qualify to try it, I need to have the .APK   
    AA> version.  I think I found the legit file as version 5.0.8 here:   
      
    AA> https://signal.org/android/apk/   
      
    AA>    ..but the SHA256 that I get doesn't match what they report on   
    AA> the site:   
      
    AA> "You can verify the signing certificate on the APK matches this   
    AA> SHA256 fingerprint:   
      
    AA> 29:F3:4E:5F:27:F2:11:B4:24:BC:5B:F9:D6:71:62:C0   
    AA> EA:FB:A2:DA:35:AF:35:C1:64:16:FC:44:62:76:BA:26   
      
    AA> But I guess the SHA256 above is for the "certificate", not the   
    AA> file itself?   
      
    AA> Why can't everyone just stick with MD5 or SHA256 for the "files"   
    AA> and avoid having us to find other apps to read certificates!   
      
   MD5 Is no longer considered secure, as a hash algorithm!   
      
    AA> But another problem persists. The $5 top up + 200MB is supposed   
    AA> to allow me to cruise at 3G speeds.  But the best that I am   
    AA> getting now is 36Kbps!   
      
    AA> This shit is way overpriced.   
      
   Indeed.   
      
    AA>>> I like Telegram's offerings across ALL devices, especially   
    AA>>> the desktop. The desktop version permits much better   
    AA>>> editing performance.   
      
    WvV>> I like it too!   
      
    AA> It's especially nice to be able to adjust the colours and the   
    AA> backgrounds. Does Signal have that?   
      
   I don't know. As I said, I hardly ever used it...   
      
      
   Bye, Wilfred.   
      
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