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   On 09 Nov 20  18:22:15, Jay Harris said the following to Nick Andre:   
      
   JH> Yup, some of the most frustrating and rewarding moments is when everything   
   JH> "should" work but doesn't & then you figure out why it didn't.   
      
   I was very, very lucky to work with what can only be described as    
   total assholes over the years. Not sure what it was about them but aside   
   from their personalities they were spot-on correct with troubleshooting 101.   
   Start simple and work up from there. And if you cannot fix it, you either   
   figure it out until its fixed, or you find someone else that can...  there is   
   no such thing as a no-fix scenario.   
      
   Thats what they never really teach in tech classes as far as I can tell. They    
   teach all the theory and components and thats fine but they do not teach you    
   how to deal with being thrown into the lion's den. Stuff like inheriting a   
   total freaking mess from the previous IT manager or the foundations of a   
   network not designed correctly or all the software licensing poorly accounted    
   for... or my favourite, major investments in process-systems and equipment   
   obsolete with no software patches available and its not financially feasable    
   to rip everything out.   
      
   Now they also tend not to teach how to use those types of problems to your   
   advantage when it comes to HR or negotiating a raise or whatever to make   
   fixing things actually rewarding career-wise... taking negatives and making    
   them into positives in the end.   
      
   Nick   
      
   --- Renegade vY2Ka2   
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