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   On 14/05/2020 6:27 a.m., Dennisk : August Abolins wrote:   
      
    DK> Win Me? Oh, I still feel the scars from that OS, and I didn't   
    DK> even use it, just provides a little support for it. I moved to   
    DK> Linux in 2000, gradually.   
      
   I was a bit out of the loop when WinME rolled out, so I was unawares of some of   
   the problems people reported about it.  But I was in the market for a new 486   
   pc   
   to replace an aging 386 and WinME came along with the package from a local   
   shop.   
      
   I applied all the tweaks and reg fixes that I eventually learned about.  The   
   system was quite smooth-running after that.  It was up 24/7 for most of the   
   time   
   as it was the gateway server to my router/dialup to supply access to the   
   internet from a couple of other computers I used at home.   
      
      
    AA>> I managed to overcome that limitation by installing Ubuntu. The   
    AA>> pc worked reasonably well for a couple years after that. But   
    AA>> the max 2GB ram proved to be a limitation after a few more   
    AA>> Ubuntu updates. And again, the browser program was the first   
    AA>> sign of "not good enough".   
      
    DK> An alternative was simply to never update your OS, which is what   
    DK> I did. It did mean not updating browsers, and software as well,   
    DK> but I was able to use Red Hat Linux 7.3 up until 2009 on a   
    DK> 700MHz machine with 384M RAM. I don't do that now, as its   
    DK> probably not a good practice.   
      
   Actually, the last Ubuntu I had on the ex-WinME machine was "ok".  I even   
   thought of rolling back a version. But the task seemed daunting.  I don't   
   remember the CPU speed of the pc, but it was just not performing as snappy with   
   the mp3 processing and browsing as I wanted anymore.  Keep in mind, I was still   
   on dialup for my internet. So experimenting with other distros was not going to   
   work.  I received the original Ubuntu from their free rollout of CDs.   
      
      
    AA>> I don't know what they're doing on Facebook, but it takes at   
    AA>> least 15 seconds to load the main page while it takes another   
    AA>> 15 secs for all the tracking shit to settle down..   
      
    DK> I think part of it is that the HTTP protocol wasn't designed to   
    DK> handle small packets of traffic going back and forth...   
      
   Ah.. yeah.  I can't really do anything and get a proper keyboard response until   
   all that activity has stopped.   
      
      
    DK> FB is horrible design. I joined because someone was too lazy to   
    DK> simply send e-mails.   
      
   Same here.  Mostly, my cousins.  One likes to use PicCollage.  I hate that! The   
   combined picture is too small to appreciate the individual pics.  It's probably   
   just fine on her 43" screen.  :(   Some people shouldn't be allowed to use a   
   computer, imho,  :/   People using FB have no sense of computer bandwidth and   
   efficiency, not to mention privacy (but that's a whole different story).   
      
      
    DK> A good example of design is the D Language   
    DK> Forum at forum.dlang.org. It's web based, simple and FAST.   
      
   YES, very!  It loaded in a snap.  Navigation seems instantaneous.  Nicely done.   
      
   Something like that for echomail on the web (to replace the current offerings)   
   would be very nice.   
      
      
    DK> But   
    DK> better still, it's actually a front end to an NNTP backend, so   
    DK> you can use a newgroup reader to access it as well. Good use of   
    DK> existing technology to solve a problem. This is the way it   
    DK> should be done.   
      
   I like the nntp option too.  (See below.)  Nicely conceived.   
      
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