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   Tristan B. Kildaire to Deavmi   
   Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a   
   20 Nov 16 19:39:05   
   
   On 2016-11-20 07:07 PM, Deavmi wrote:   
   > On 2016-11-20 06:44 PM, Deavmi wrote:   
   >> So, I was not born in the Usenet era and honestly would have like to had   
   >> what they had - a standard protocol for communication. This exists today   
   >> but guess what has happened to it, SPAM, SPAM and more SPAM.   
   >>   
   >> I want an NNTP network and I know many others do as well, I surely   
   >> cannot be alone in a quest for a protocol which allows discussions on   
   >> topics with any client you want to use. Therefore I want to create a new   
   >> Usenet, in this proposal I shall refer to it as Usenet-Next as it needs   
   >> a name that people can use to relate to this proposal.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> So how shall we make our network rid of spam. Well the thing is to be   
   >> strict in both the user registration process and the server   
   >> configurations and who our servers peer with. I am not well versed at   
   >> all in NNTP but that is why I'd like to get you people to mail me   
   >> (deavmi [at] disroot [dot] org) so we discuss the setup but also the   
   >> rules for the network which will be very strict and lastly how these   
   >> things are linked together.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Remember, we are not migrating Usenet but creating our own network,   
   >> Usenet-Next, therefore we will not have any relation to the Usenet   
   >> network or community, the only relation we will have is making them   
   >> aware of our new proposal and network.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I would like to save the idea of a distributed network of servers   
   >> tossing posts around to create a decentralized but common database of   
   >> news - this is Usenet. I would greatly appreciate mail from anyone who   
   >> would like to discuss this proposal and do some tests and setup the   
   >> network. I would also like to note that I am not making myself the   
   >> network king or anything, I just want to start the discussion.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I am sorry for the spam I have caused. But spam is something that is   
   >> useless, and this is not spam. I have contradicted myself there, sorry.   
   >> I just felt that this is a matter of emergency. I don't want to resort   
   >> to terrible centralized web forums, I love Usenet, even for the 2 days I   
   >> have been using it but I could not come to terms with and accept the   
   >> spam.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Sincerely,   
   >> Tristan B. Kildaire (Deavmi)   
   >   
   > So according to a Usenet user my approach of the walled garden is bad.   
   > Well, at least I started a discussion. I'd like suggestions then on how   
   > we could make this network but still be strict but open? D you see what   
   > I mean?   
   Email from John:   
      
   Well thank you Mr. Levine. I appreciate that. I just wished there was a    
   way. I just think if we had a Usenet Comittee it would make a hell of a    
   difference, so we can control which servers are peered and what not.    
   Idk, sounds ike a heck of a lot of work anyway.   
      
   On 2016-11-20 07:27 PM, Comp.compilers wrote:   
    >> Do you have a suggestion for what to do? (No sarcasm intended, I am    
   honestly asking)   
    >   
    > Live with it, I'm afraid.  While I expect we could boot off some of    
   the cruddier usenet servers, I don't think it'd make much difference    
   since there's too many people who get phished and bad guys use their    
   otherwise legitimate accounts.   
    >   
    > Regards,   
    > John Levine, comp.compilers moderator,   
    > johnl@iecc.com, http://compilers.iecc.com   
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