Re: Netscape   
     By: S/370 to Khelair on Sat Dec 21 2013 01:11:57   
      
    > Holy crap! And I thought I was the only person with RAM issues. I tried usin   
    > Slackware 3.3 and even that felt really bloated on my 166Mhz Pentium (16MB).   
    > Guess I should just use ports of UNIX software in win95 instead of a full Li   
    > installation.   
      
     I don't remember exactly which version of Slackware 3.3 was; I always   
   remembered which was which by kernel version.  I started in the 1.0.x (where   
   'x' was in the low teens, I believe) kernel versions.   
      
    > I still use rxvt (actually urxvt) for that same reason. And shame on the peo   
    > who use gnome-terminal!   
      
     I agree completely; rxvt does everything you need for a terminal, and bloat   
   like gnome-terminal really rubs me the wrong way.   
      
    > How can Linux be so bloated during its infancy? Is it due to it being   
    > programmed almost exclusively in C? Or is it due to its multi-tasking,   
    > multi-user features?   
      
       I really don't think that it was, actually.  I've seen it on a 386dx   
   before, doing things that the same machine couldn't handle in DOS mode with   
   multithreading.  For instance, the comm software 'telemate' had a   
   multithreading engine of sorts in it.  You could edit text, write software in   
   telemate's own scripting language, cut 'n paste from scrollback into messages   
   and the like, etc, while doing a 14.4k file xfer with zmodem.  However, your   
   errors would definately go up due to dropped bytes and invalid CRCs.   
       Switching to 1.0.x slackware, though, with the same amount of RAM, you   
   could start the same file xferring in terminal one, switch to two and play   
   tetris for terminals, and switch to three and run a niced compilation process   
   (not sure if you could do one that engaged swapping, though-- can't remember   
   that well), and your errors wouldn't go down at all.   
       Is this the kind of stuff that you were talking about or did you primarily   
   mean in graphical environments?  Even with that caveat, I don't think I've   
   ever seen a computer swap more, on any semi-equivalent hardware, on linux   
   as opposed to the same generation's version of Windows.  :P   
      
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