Hi Simon,   
      
   nice that your working on a device list. it is possible that you make a note   
   on the end of the list, that people how have the nntp/untp addin for hotdogED   
   can test it with the hotdoged/hotdoged user/pass constallation at the   
   blackice nntp-server?   
      
   may be rudi can put this on the echo-rules? than this was frequently in the   
   news and the people can check it out.   
      
   (by the way simon and i working on a special hotdoged area at the blackice   
   bbs with tutorials and more)   
      
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