Hello TIM!   
      
   05 Dec 11 05:25, you wrote to me:   
      
    TR>> I bitched about it back then, and even said this echo would soon   
    TR>> be dead. And it has been ever since.   
      
    RC>> Okay if you bitched about it then and you didnt get anywhere with   
    RC>> it, what do you think has changed since then if there were   
    RC>> approximately 30 posts of the same ruleset since then?   
      
    TR> And thats pretty much all the traffic there's been in the echo. You   
    TR> `posting the rules'.   
      
   and HOLYSMOKE and CROSSFIRE are the only echoes this happens in and I am at   
   fault for it happening anywhere else?   
      
   Automation works...   
      
   You wanted an axe to grind and you found one..   
      
    TR> Reminds me of the `LIMBAUGH' echo when it got killed off. The two   
    TR> moderators would not allow a word of criticism of Rush Limbaugh, not   
    TR> the slightest. All you could post over there was `dittohead' posts,   
    TR> interspersed with a lot of `Rush is right' crap.   
      
   I wouldnt know, I never read the echo, I understand it was where Otto cut his   
   Fido teeth in???   
      
    TR> What they ended up with was an empty echo, where the only traffic   
    TR> there was one or the other moderator's `posting the rules'   
    TR> occasionally. Now its not even that.   
      
   There are echoes on the backbone now with autoposts unrelated to the echo..   
      
    RC>> Were you bored Tim, or did you not think to approach me with a   
    RC>> better attitude about reviving the echo and changing the rules..   
      
    TR> I don't think to `approach' you at all. You're an anal-retentive jerk   
    TR> who pictures himself some sort of FidoNet big shot.   
      
   I will decide on what I picture myself as, not some old phart from San Diego.   
      
   Why dont you ask Stan, Ed, John how unapproachable I am??   
      
   Dont be so lazy Tim, you sound like Otto and Klahn.   
      
    RC>> The rules were only tightened because a few people thought the word   
    RC>> HOLYSMOKE was code for persecute Ceppa.   
      
    TR> Ceppa was one of the worst flamers in the entire echo! Ceppa was also   
    TR> an asshole who pictured himself as a big shot because he moderated a   
    TR> few echoes. Ceppa got talked to the same way HE talked to other   
    TR> people.   
      
   The attempt a couple years ago was to remake the echo into something different   
   from what it was..   
      
   Unfortunately everyone lost interest when Ceppa left.. Not the rules, when   
   Ceppa left.   
      
    RC>> or we had them blaming Ed Hulett for the sins of every Mormon since   
    RC>> that church was founded.   
      
    TR> So fuckin' what! What the fuck do you care! Let the chips fall where   
    TR> they may. Ed didn't need you to nursemaid him, and neither does anyone   
    TR> else.   
      
   You dont get it, the echo got to centered on people, not prophets or religion..   
      
   The bitching became only about Otto, Ceppa or Ed...   
      
   (Note no one could attack Ceppa in POL_INC, so...)   
      
   However I have difficulty in accepting that this has been causing you great   
   emotional distress for the past 30 months??   
      
    RC>> Right now we have probably 2 users to argue religion with, that is   
    RC>> that puke Steve Kemp and the welfare queen Ross Sauer, both of whom   
    RC>> think the believers should be shot.   
      
    TR> Yeah....and they both post in here like.....what? once a year?!   
      
   If you are bellyaching about debating religion, them 2 are your choices of   
   opponents..   
      
   Look, I have heard this statement bandied about for the past 10 to 15 years:   
      
   "Fidonet is dieing, (for whatever reason)"   
      
   You say I am killing it by not allowing heavy handed discussions to take place   
   in what 2 echoes? But I also hear that heavy handed discussions that take   
   place elsewhere is killing Fidonet.. So Tim, which camp is right?   
      
   ==   
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