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   Message 17 of 182   
   Ross Sauer to TIM RICHARDSON   
   Is Fred Phelps a Christia   
   10 Oct 10 17:48:42   
   
   "TIM RICHARDSON -> ROSS SAUER" <1:123/140> wrote in   
   news:10804$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:   
      
    RS>> With Fred Phelps' daughter arguing in front of the Supreme Court,   
    TR> (and RS>they had to disinfect the chamber after,) something I wonder   
    TR> about.   
      
      
    RS>> Is Fred Phelps and his brood actually Christian?   
      
      
    RS>> And please none of this "They aren't true Christian" nonsense   
    TR> either.   
      
      
    TR> I've explained this to you before, many times, but you are too   
    TR> thick-headed to catch on. You let your religion-hatred get in the way   
    TR> of your common sense, a problem that seems to be pretty ingrained with   
    TR> your type.   
      
      
    TR> However.......I'll try again.   
      
      
    TR> To be a Christian means to be `Christ-like'.   
      
   Does being "Christ-like" include hatred based on religion?   
   Because I keep seeing self-proclaimed Christians, including yourself,   
   spew absolute hatred of *ALL* Muslims.   
      
    TR> Studying Christ and his life and ministry, you see a way of living   
    TR> that is non-violent, non-criminal, and deeply charitable.   
      
   You mean like the megachurch preachers who preach about how sick our   
   society is, yet they are so corrupt they stink on ice?   
      
    RS>> Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim.   
    RS>> Meir Kahane was described as a Jew.   
      
      
    TR> Studying the life of Mohommad, you see a life of anger,   
    TR> forced-conversion, war, death, slavery, demeaning of women, hatred.   
      
   Studying the life of Moses and the other "heroes" of the Old Testament,   
   you see the same thing.   
      
    TR> Osama bin Laden is a Muslim. Islam is about conquering, slavery, hate,   
    TR> suicide, war, .........   
      
   Likewise the Old Testament.   
      
    TR> I have a question for you:   
      
      
    TR> Each time someone brings up the fact that the world of Islam is trying   
    TR> to force their `world' on the rest of the world......Klahn or you, his   
    TR> sock puppet, pop up with `well.....it isn't *all* Muslims, only a   
    TR> select few. The rest of the Muslim world is against that'....or words   
    TR> along that line.   
      
   Oh, and Christians aren't?   
      
   One of the heads of the Southern Baptists wants yoga outlawed, since it   
   has elements of Eastern religions in it sometimes.   
      
   Also look up "Christian Reconstructionism," and "Dominionism."   
      
   Then tell me again how only Muslims want to take over the world.   
      
    TR> If this is true......where (oh...where!) is all this outrage from the   
    TR> part of the Muslim world who are against the violence? I haven't seen   
    TR> any. Have you?   
      
   Yes, in the Sufi Muslim faith.   
      
    RS>> Also, should the 1rst Amendment apply to Phelps' stunts?   
      
      
    TR> The 1st Amendment applies to everyone.   
      
      
    RS>> I say it does, since the same people that censor Phelps, can sensor   
    TR> anyone RS>else for any reason.   
      
      
    TR> Do you think some soldiers attending a funeral for a fallen comrade,   
    TR> should surround a few of the pukes holding the signs and shouting vile   
    TR> insults at their comrade's family, and beat the shit out of them?   
      
   No.   
   It gives Phelps grounds for lawsuits, and that is how he and his brood   
   make money.   
      
   It also is free speech suppressed by a mob.   
      
   --- Xnews/5.04.25   
    * Origin: Fidonet Via Newsreader - http://www.easternstar.info (1:123/789.0)   

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