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|    August Abolins to George Pope    |
|    Re: debate time -- exclusivity in religi    |
|    06 Feb 22 23:27:44    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 164.fido_holysmok@1:124/5016 2665d662       REPLY: 1:153/757.0 a9c594f8       PID: Synchronet 3.19c-Linux master/dbf0a87ad Feb 6 2022 GCC 9.3.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Linux master/dbf0a87ad Feb 6 2022 GCC 9.3.0       BBSID: EOTLBBS       CHRS: UTF-8 4       On 2/1/2022 2:51 PM, between "George Pope":              > Ok, I'll be brave & start the ball rolling with my own thoughts on a       > topic:       >        > Some religions are based entirely on exclusivity (only their members       > get to Heaven, for example)       >        > I'd lkke to suggest they are preaching it wrong:       >        > It's that those in their group must follow their rules or suffer       > exclusion from their group's rewards.              Religion is a man-made concept. Even the teachings of Christ are       anti-religious. Many people who haven't read the scriptures don't realize       that.              I'd say that most every other "religions" expound a form of exclusivity. But       what is the "truth"?               > I believe God to be more universal -- after all He/She created all       > humans, not only a single group (unless you count us all as one       > family, which I do)       >        > God, however you understabd or don't understand God, obviously loves       > variety, so why take away variety, in casing an ephemeral idea of       > homogeneity?       >        > Certainly some laws are universal, & can be aptly summed up under the       > Golden Rule. Humanism has develpoed this same framework for defining       > universal commandments.              But humanism lacks hope in the eternal.                     > I think it can be summed up in two: 1. Don't be a jackass. 2. Do       > good.              "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is also a pretty good       starting point.                     > I prefer to consider true religions, open to all, as: "To love and to       > learn"              Fair enough. For many people the road to discover the truth is a journey that       may take them to the explorations and study of other faith systems along the       way.                     > Everything else is comsmetic -- you go to a church or club you feel;       > comfortable with, with an affinity for the membership/rules.              It is a good thing to be amongst like-minded people. That's where we can get       support during troubling times. There might be certain "rules", but they are       man-made ones, then it would depend on what those rules are.                     > I believe my purpose on this Earth, in the life, is to make the world       > a little bit better than when I came into it (being born, & also each       > new day)              That's a great attitude.                     > I personally feel the most affinity for Conservative Judaism & its       > interpretation of the universal truths, so that's who I affiliate       > with. They've formally accepted & ritualised this membership per       > their traditions for such, so I'm officially part of a humumgous       > family who likewise seeks to do good for others & to improve Earth       > for the sake of all.              Myself, I am not religious. (See reference above.) The scriptures give plenty       of examples of the bane of ritual and tradition. Those are best avoided.       --- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux        * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/0 30/0 90/1 105/81 106/201 120/340 123/131 124/5016       SEEN-BY: 129/305 330 331 153/757 7715 203/0 218/700 221/6 226/30 227/114       SEEN-BY: 229/110 206 317 400 424 426 700 240/1120 5832 266/512 280/464       SEEN-BY: 282/1038 292/8125 301/0 1 101 317/3 320/219 322/757 342/200       SEEN-BY: 396/45 460/58 712/848 2452/250 5020/1042       PATH: 124/5016 280/464 301/1 229/426           |
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