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   Ed Hulett to Ross Sauer   
   Is Fred Phelps a Christian?   
   10 Oct 10 16:59:28   
   
   On 10/09/2010 10:32 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:   
    RS> "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in   
    RS> news:10802$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:   
      
    RS>>> With Fred Phelps' daughter arguing in front of the Supreme   
    EH>> Court,   
    EH>> (and they   
    RS>>> had to disinfect the chamber after,) something I wonder about.   
      
    EH>> She's not the worst one to set foot there.   
      
    RS>>> Is Fred Phelps and his brood actually Christian?   
      
    EH>> No. It comes down to "what would Jesus do?" He definitely would NOT do   
    EH>> what Phelps and his idiot bunch do.   
      
    RS> Phelps' religion is based more on the Old Testament, the wrathful punish   
    RS> everyone for what a few did wrong-type God.   
      
   Total nonsense.   
      
    RS> There are also parts of Paul's teachings in Phelps interpretations.   
      
   You don't know what you are talking about.   
      
    RS>>> And please none of this "They aren't true Christian" nonsense   
    EH>> either.   
      
    EH>> It isn't nonsense. No true Christian would be so hateful.   
      
    RS> So what do you all him?   
      
   Huh?   
      
    RS> Besides what's unprintable?   
      
   I don't talk like that.   
      
    RS>>> Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim.   
      
    EH>> So what? Are you equating Phelps with bin Laden?   
      
    RS> In a way, yes.   
      
   Are you serious? Who has Phelps murdered?   
      
    RS> Both subscribe to nothing but hatred and both are of the type of   
    RS> preacher that dictates everything, and rules the flock with an iron   
    RS> fist.   
      
   You don't have a clue.   
      
    RS>>> Meir Kahane was described as a Jew.   
      
    EH>> Again, so what?   
      
    EH>> It doesn't matter what they are described as, it is their actions that   
    EH>> define them.   
      
    RS> Quite true.   
      
   Then, what's your point in trying to call Phelps a Christian?   
      
    RS> But if Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim, by the same logic   
    RS> Phelps should be described as a Christian.   
      
   You really should stop digging.   
      
    RS>>> Also, should the 1rst Amendment apply to Phelps' stunts?   
      
    EH>> Yes, it does. What they do is reprehensible, but it is protected by   
    EH>> the 1st Amendment.   
      
    RS>>> I say it does, since the same people that censor Phelps, can   
    EH>> sensor anyone RS> else for any reason.   
      
    EH>> Exactly.   
      
    RS> Do you think the Supreme Court will rule against Phelps?   
      
   I can't see them doing it unless they go with the plaintiff's contention that   
   Phelps' group attacked his son personally.   
      
   Ed   
      
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