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|    Ed Hulett to Ross Sauer    |
|    Is Fred Phelps a Christian?    |
|    10 Oct 10 16:59:28    |
      On 10/09/2010 10:32 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:        RS> "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in        RS> news:10802$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:               RS>>> With Fred Phelps' daughter arguing in front of the Supreme        EH>> Court,        EH>> (and they        RS>>> had to disinfect the chamber after,) something I wonder about.               EH>> She's not the worst one to set foot there.               RS>>> Is Fred Phelps and his brood actually Christian?               EH>> No. It comes down to "what would Jesus do?" He definitely would NOT do        EH>> what Phelps and his idiot bunch do.               RS> Phelps' religion is based more on the Old Testament, the wrathful punish        RS> everyone for what a few did wrong-type God.              Total nonsense.               RS> There are also parts of Paul's teachings in Phelps interpretations.              You don't know what you are talking about.               RS>>> And please none of this "They aren't true Christian" nonsense        EH>> either.               EH>> It isn't nonsense. No true Christian would be so hateful.               RS> So what do you all him?              Huh?               RS> Besides what's unprintable?              I don't talk like that.               RS>>> Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim.               EH>> So what? Are you equating Phelps with bin Laden?               RS> In a way, yes.              Are you serious? Who has Phelps murdered?               RS> Both subscribe to nothing but hatred and both are of the type of        RS> preacher that dictates everything, and rules the flock with an iron        RS> fist.              You don't have a clue.               RS>>> Meir Kahane was described as a Jew.               EH>> Again, so what?               EH>> It doesn't matter what they are described as, it is their actions that        EH>> define them.               RS> Quite true.              Then, what's your point in trying to call Phelps a Christian?               RS> But if Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim, by the same logic        RS> Phelps should be described as a Christian.              You really should stop digging.               RS>>> Also, should the 1rst Amendment apply to Phelps' stunts?               EH>> Yes, it does. What they do is reprehensible, but it is protected by        EH>> the 1st Amendment.               RS>>> I say it does, since the same people that censor Phelps, can        EH>> sensor anyone RS> else for any reason.               EH>> Exactly.               RS> Do you think the Supreme Court will rule against Phelps?              I can't see them doing it unless they go with the plaintiff's contention that       Phelps' group attacked his son personally.              Ed              --        "Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every       opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there       be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded       fear." -- Thomas Jefferson              Blogs: http://edsramblings.wordpress.com | http://woodcaringnsuch.wordpress.com       http://edsscrollsawbits.blogspot.com | http://eds-omnium-gatherum.blogspot.com              Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ed.hulett | Twitter: http://ww       .twitter.com/yaesu              Linux User #416016       Linux Machine #385030              --- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunder        * Origin: Fidonet Via Newsreader - http://www.easternstar.info (1:123/789.0)    |
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