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|    TIM RICHARDSON to EARL CROASMUN    |
|    Arizona discrimination    |
|    08 Mar 14 09:11:00    |
      On 03-07-14, EARL CROASMUN said to TIM RICHARDSON:              >> But this baker is being pilloried because he will not sign onto the       EC>wedding >> Again, baking a cake does not involve signing onto the wedding.                     >Yes it does. And if it doesn't, then no prosecutor can ever bring someone       >into >court for furnishing the car used in a bank robbery. No citizen can       >ever again be prosecuted for furnishing the gun that is used to murder       >someone.                     EC>Completely different.                     Not at all. Which you admit in your very next paragraph:                     EC>Lending or selling someone a car does not       EC>make you a participant in whatever they DO with that car later.                     Not if you DON't KNOW what they're going to do with it.                     However:                     EC>And if       EC>you know they are going to rob a bank and do not report it, that makes you       EC>an accessory to the crime whether you lent them the car or not.                     And if you are a Christian baker who KNOWS a wedding cake ordered from you is       intended to celebrate a s-called `wedding' between two same-sex sodomites, and       you bake it for them anyway, that makes you an accessory to sodomy!                     >>> The wedding can happen with or without a photographer.                     >> It can happen with or without a wedding cake, also.                     >> Exactly.              > Ah...then you AGREE that the cake really has no bearing on whether or not       the > wedding itself occurs?                     EC>That was exactly what I said. In this case the wedding HAD ALREADY       EC>HAPPENED in fact, so the photographer and the baker had no connection to       EC>it HAPPENING.                     Then....what, exactly, is the problem these two same-sex sodomites have? If       they're already `married'....what's the beef? The baker is within their rights       to refuse to be a party to sodomy, or even any appearance of participating in       such on religious grounds.                     Freedom of Religion is either real, or it isn't. I strongly suspect that, if       this were a bakery owned and operated by a family of Islamics, we would not be       having this exchange because this would never have come up in a court.                     Why take a case to a court over a *Christian* bakery? Feels like a put-up job       to me.                     ---       *Durango b301 #PE*         * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140)    |
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