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|    TIM RICHARDSON to EARL CROASMUN    |
|    Arizona discrimination    |
|    07 Mar 14 09:49:00    |
      On 03-06-14, EARL CROASMUN said to TIM RICHARDSON:              > But this baker is being pilloried because he will not sign onto the wedding                     EC>Again, baking a cake does not involve signing onto the wedding.                     Yes it does. And if it doesn't, then no prosecutor can ever bring someone into       court for furnishing the car used in a bank robbery. No citizen can ever again       be prosecuted for furnishing the gun that is used to murder someone.                     By claiming that this baker *isn't signing on to a sodomite wedding by baking       and selling the cake he KNOWS is for a sodomite wedding, at the same time this       goes for other interpretations of such situations as well. No prosecutor can       ever go into court and claim any defendant *KNOWINGLY* furnished a weapon or       vehicle involved in a crime.                     The defense then becomes ...`yeah but...he didn't "...sign on to it", yer       honor!"                     EC>He would not be endorsing it.                     A person who lends someone a car to do a bank robbery isn't `endorsing it'       either, right?                     EC>He would not be giving it his blessing.                     A person who lends someone a gun to shoot someone else isn't `giving their       blessing' to a murder, right?                     EC>He does not have the power to force the wedding, nor to prevent it.                     He isn't trying to do either one. He's simply refusing to be any party to it.                     >> "Conscientious objector" status has some relevance to the military, but       >> not to photography. The wedding can happen with or without a       >> photographer.                     > It can happen with or without a wedding cake, also.                     EC>Exactly.                     Ah...then you AGREE that the cake really has no bearing on whether or not the       wedding itself occurs?                     So then, if thats true....why don't they just go to a different bakery? Why       take THIS one to court? If they're so `in love', and want to badly to be       `married', one would think they'd want their `wedding' to be remembered as a       joyous occasion, and not a nasty court battle over the fucking cake!                     Just go to a different bakery! Problem solved! Why make a court case out of       it?                     And THAT speaks of there being a lot more to this than we're seeing right now.                     ---       *Durango b301 #PE*         * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140)    |
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