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   -=> Andre Robitaille wrote to Nigel Reed <=-   
      
    AR> Then I'd argue you probably don't need extra. After a little over two   
    AR> years into radio, I've used something from every section of the test   
    AR> except sat, and even that knowledge I've used in discussions with   
    AR> people.   
      
   I've been a ham for 23 years now and recently upgraded to Extra in June   
   2019.  I haven't actually needed to use anything from the Extra test ... but   
   I have always used my General knowledge.  The Extra is full of a lot of   
   radio and electronics theory which is good if you're building everything   
   yourself.  I don't though I do build wire antennas.   
      
    AR> I can tell you in no uncertain terms, every antenna you buy or built,   
    AR> *maybe* with the exception of a loop or metal vertical, is going to   
    AR> need some antenna knowledge to get the best performance out of it.   
      
   I'll respectfully disagree with you on that.  I built my first antenna, a   
   G5RV Junior, to "specs", put it on the air, and used it for four years until   
   I had to move.  I worked everywhere from Alaska to Chile to Japan with it   
   ... and I didn't know anything about antennas at the time.   
      
   I have bought several antennas and not needed to do anything to them to get   
   optimum performance.  I installed them according to instructions and they   
   work just fine.  My current antenna, a 10-80 meter end-fed half wave with a   
   9:1 balun on it, was designed by a professional antenna designer.  All I did   
   was mount it.  I have a 40 year old Mosley RV-4C vertical (10-40 meter with   
   the additional 80 meter coil) that worked just fine by following   
   instructions to mount it.  I've had a SuperAntennas MP-1, Hustler vertical,   
   and a full Buddipole Deluxe kit--I still use that--and never any issues   
   outside of following instructions.   
      
    AR> I have operated with plenty of people of all sorts, including a bunch   
    AR> with extra class, and about 80% of them have damn near no idea what   
    AR> they're doing with antennas, setup, and/or operating. I promise that if   
    AR> you learn what's in extra and put it into practice as you need it,   
    AR> you'll find value in it.   
      
   I've done the same but it all depends on how much you want to bother to know   
   about it.  Many don't bother with it though if you take the time to attempt   
   the Extra license, you tend to want to know more.   
      
    AR> Etienne passed with a couple wrong answers. I did worse. He was eleven   
    AR> at the time. :-/   
      
   I passed my Extra last June (2019) at the age of 47.  I did a "cram and   
   exam" session and passed just fine.   
      
   I didn't bother to ask if I missed any questions or how many I did miss  if   
   I did.  All that mattered to me was that I passed.   
      
   I'm also an ARRL-accredited VE and I can tell you that the reason most don't   
   get their Extra is because they're happy with what they have and don't want   
   to work any harder to get it.  If someone is actively trying to get their   
   Extra, they'll get it, one way or the other.   
      
   73,   
   Sean KS4TD   
      
      
      
   -- Sean   
       
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