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   Message 565 of 2,690   
   mark lewis to Kai Richter   
   Golded+ and QWK   
   26 Jun 15 19:39:18   
   
   26 Jun 15 23:47, you wrote to me:   
      
    KR>>> I never heard of QWK networks,   
      
    ml>> that's ok...   
      
    KR>>> QWK is a point to point protocol between a BBS and an offline user.   
      
    ml>> no... the PCRELAY/RIME network (mainly PCBoard systems) was   
    ml>> completely QWK...   
      
    KR> Why don't you call it RIME when you are talking about RIME networking?   
    KR> ;) I wouldn't call ftn networks squish or jam networking and QWK   
    KR> networking is same confusing.   
      
   RIME and PCRELAY were two separate and different entities...   
      
   here's a link to a book on google about PCRELAY...   
      
   https://books.google.com/books?id=x2kb8n32nTMC&pg=PT268&lpg=PT26   
   &dq=bbs+RIME+PCRELAY&source=bl&ots=iWPqY-J7WE&sig=frji3YSxblMNVt   
   x__Ag4mKjcQc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t-KNVe_dA8X5-AGL1IDICA&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAA#   
   v=onepage&q=bbs%20RIME%20PCRELAY&f=false   
      
   same as above but shortened... http://tinyurl.com/ngm863g   
      
   page 5 is what i was shown...   
      
      
   RIME was "RelayNet (tm) International Message Exchange (RIME) BBS Network"...   
      
   http://cd.textfiles.com/hamradio/misc/relaynet/bylaws.txt   
      
      
   PCRelay was one package that was used... there was at least one other but i   
   don't recall all the details... i just remember that it was known as   
   RIME/PCRelay for the most part... the actual transfer required additional   
   software, too... that was a scripted terminal program which, just like a user,   
   called into the hub bbs, logged in to the qwk account for the calling system,   
   went to the proper menu and initiated the QWK upload and download of   
   messages... after the transfer, it logged off just like a user and then the   
   PCRelay software munched on the QWK bundle and tossed those messages into the   
   bbs' message areas...   
      
      
    ml>> the main difference between an end user and another system was that a   
    ml>> system was allowed to post messages with different user names...   
      
    KR> Then the same limitations apply and it still was a point to point   
    KR> protokoll where one BBS became "user" and fetched mail from another   
    KR> BBS via QWK?   
      
   yes...   
      
    ml>> it appears to me that golded can be used like bluewave or multimail   
    ml>> where it can accept QWK mail and (unlike the others) unpacks it into   
    ml>> JAM or SQUish or whatever message bases...   
      
    KR> I don't think so. Golded is no tosser, it can access the message base   
    KR> which is for QWK the QWK file set and generate a QWK standard answer   
    KR> packet.   
      
   like i said, i haven't tried it... it may just be able to read and reply like   
   multimail, bluewave reader, slmr and others...   
      
    KR> Maybe move/copy mails from the QWK files into sqd or jam echoarea is   
    KR> possible.   
      
   maybe :)   
      
    ml>>>> so when starting a message reply or original, there's no way to   
    ml>>>> edit the From name and From address?   
      
    KR>>> No. There is a way. The random system is just the default auto-fill   
    KR>>> but can   
      
    ml>> random name choosing is not a good thing when it comes to posting   
    ml>> messages...   
      
    KR> Nobody wrote about random names. The thing is called random system and   
    KR> i hope you don't think the creator was that stupid to create random   
    KR> names.   
      
   i didn't say that but thanks for the twist :)   
      
    KR> "No" means no to your "no way". To be clear i said there is a way.   
    KR> Looks like my english is more worse than i thought. ;)   
      
   oh! hahaha... it is all good :)   
      
    KR>>> be edited by cursor up too. Some keywords can be used many times,   
    KR>>> like origin and aka, there is a change function and you can select   
    KR>>> from a list to use one. I never tried, but i think USERNAME can be   
    KR>>> defined many times too.   
      
    ml>> too bad that one cannot configure an area to use a specific username   
    ml>> by default...   
      
    KR> That is exactly what you can.   
      
   yes, i think it was nick that showed me a config for that...   
      
    KR> The random system chooses between two given origin definitions   
    KR> randomly. What would happen if the is one origin definition only? What   
    KR> would happen if there is one username definition only?   
      
   see? the name "random" just implies some automatic choice using a selector to   
   choose from more than one option... it just throws me off the scent...   
      
    ml>> that would allow for what is being asked for... in areas xyz, i want   
    ml>> to use this name by default   
      
    KR> group xyz   
    KR> username "this name"   
    KR> endgroup   
      
   right... i saw this now :)   
      
    ml>> but in areas pdq i want to use another name...   
      
    KR> group pdq   
    KR> username "another name"   
    KR> endgroup   
      
    KR> would do your wish. xyz and pdq must be exact echotags and be before   
    KR> other wildcarded echotags. In the random system the first hit counts.   
      
   echotags? not groups?? why is it called "group" then? i have my echotags   
   grouped for similar items... eg: group z is my automatically added areas... it   
   is at the bottom of the list... group a is my local areas... group b is   
   fidonet backbone carried areas... i also break out administrative areas into   
   their own groups... these groups are the same as the groups the tosser uses...   
      
    KR>>> Yupp, that's common procedure. The random system of golded just adds   
    KR>>> some kind of lazyness. ;) Together with templates you could have   
    KR>>> random mail introduction lines or footers too.   
      
    ml>> i understand the random thing but i don't see it as being valid for   
    ml>> specific uses like the one being asked about ;)   
      
    KR> I never thought someone could believe that random names could be a   
    KR> reasonable feature. :)   
      
    KR> Even the AKA keyword in the random system isn't choosen randomly.   
    KR> Multiple AKAs gives the option for a menu to select one AKA from. I   
    KR> never tried with usernames but i think it's the same.   
      
   ok...   
      
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